People have moved past vorbis and into the world of Opus. Even MP3 is more for the vast amounts of legacy content - most current content will be AACL.

Saying that, as a no-lawyer, it did seem last time that I looked that many remaining patents after September 2015 were for encoding processes, but as always the actual lawyers who have had a chance to research this would know better and for the rest of us, it isnt too too much of an encumberance.

On 15 November 2015 at 16:54, Gerald B. Cox <gbcox@bzb.us> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Haïkel <hguemar@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Besides, determining when a patent expires is not that easy and Fedora Legal is backed by skilled lawyers that said the contrary. Unless Fedora Legal confirms your theory (which I doubt), it's useless to discuss this on this list.

Yeah, this is an issue for Fedora-Legal list, but is interesting nonetheless.  Looked like from the previous email that there were still a few patents that don't expire until 2017.  The first thing that actually popped into my mind was the argument that was always used about Vorbis, i.e. "businesses are afraid to use it because of potential infringement issues" - which I always thought was just a bunch of FUD.  That said, if MP3 patents are expiring what is now the excuse for people not using Vorbis?  It's obviously a better solution and uses less bandwidth for the same or better quality.  

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