2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
> On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 15:56 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > 2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>:
> > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 14:19 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > > 2008/3/10 Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com>:
> > > > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 13:34 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > > > > Is that on purpose and if it why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Guessing how much space you'll need in your non /home
partitions over
> > > > > time is difficult. Only you know how your install will be
used. That's
> > > > > why the installer defaults to the easiest thing to guess; How
much boot
> > > > > space you'll need, and how much swap space. However since
you know how
> > > > > your install is going to be used, you are best to make those
estimations
> > > > > and setup your /home as you want it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jesse Keating
> > > > > Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
> > > >
> > > > Fedora Live CD target audience are desktop users, right? I as a
> > > > desktop user haven't seen any need for / partiton over 8-10 GB.
> > > > Servers, and other fedora usages may need some other partition
schemes
> > > > but a default home user has huge benefits from a dedicated /home
> > > > partition.
> > > >
> > > > It is probable that new users aren't aware that /home partition
as a
> > > > dedicated partition has advantages and it would be best if anaconda
> > > > makes the "smart" partition scheme in which /home is a
separate
> > > > partition in LVM volume, or a logical partition. Separate home has
> > > > lots of advantages that you are aware of, so why not just change
the
> > > > partition scheme to take advantage of that?
> > >
> > > Those users could read the Installation Guide, which talks about this
> > > exact situation and how to set up partitions that make sense. I
don't
> > > think it's unreasonable to expect that new users who are going to
> > > install should read the document that tells them how to do it.
There's
> > > not a lot we can do for people who won't read.
> >
> > Where on the Live CD can I see the Installation Guide?
>
> Putting the IG on the Live Image isn't a good answer. Carrying all the
> languages we'd need to make that a good solution would knock other stuff
> off the already cramped space. However, we should link to the IG from
> the site where the Live Image is downloaded. People can download a copy
> to read offsite, or read it off the Web. I've already made a note on my
> draft for the new download workflow, at
>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts/NewGetFedora . And of
> course, whether we link or provide it directly probably doesn't impact
> whether people actually *read* it.
>
>
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IG is a monster to read :)
Has there been a initiative to make "guick install guide" or something
like that?
Valent
Actually, this reminds me of something else that I think Fedora could do
much better, namely, providing recommended kickstart configurations for
various uses. It would be dirt cheap to populate the LiveCD and the
base install media with a few different kickstart profiles, including a
"desktop novice" profile. This wouldn't change the default behavior
(and thus would not piss off lots of people) but would still accomplish
your goal.
-- Chris