On 8 January 2015 at 15:19, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:

Am 08.01.2015 um 21:34 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
In most of the cases, we end up requiring someone to go to the system
physically and doing some initial work if we run into any of 0-3. Of
course that works great if you have a physical server. We virtualize
most of our servers which ends up with even more weird problems of
trying to get working

than you do something wrong


Of course I do Harald. Very few of us are perfect. Thank you for reminding me of my failures. It has made me a better person. 
 
especially om virtualized systems remote management is far easier because you have *one* remote console and if it is regular tested and all clients have the needed access you reach 100,1000,10000 virtual servers without any exception


Another thread, but it would be useful if you explained how this is accomplished.

 
but back to topic: yes it is *way* too optimistic assume KVM or similar everywhere - for a small business you typically have a *server* as router/firewall *because* you want to avoid the security problems of make crap without regular updates directly reachable from the internet and that includes:

* SOHO routers
* KVM devices
* any embedded device
* VMware consoles

so guess what there is running: a ordinary Linux setup (in my case) Fedora and the only way to access some of them hundrets of kilometers away is just SSH

this we agree on. 


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Stephen J Smoogen.