On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 15:21 +0200, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
Dnia 24-05-2006, śro o godzinie 10:00 +0200, Bernardo Innocenti
napisał(a):
> Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
>
> > It will be good remove multiple implementation of:
> > - term toolkit (lang, libtermcap and ncurses). Use only ncurses will fit
> > all what is neccessary,. Patching all program for use libncursesw will
> > allow remove distribute libncurses library (now are distributed
> > libncurses and libncursesw) and move libncurses to kind
> > compat-ncurses package.
>
> I also want to see libtermcap die, but then libncurses and its
> terminfo database would have to move from /usr to / to support
> applications such as vim.
>
> Maybe all the exotic terminals could remain in /usr/share/terminfo
> while the root partition would only have minimal support for the
> most common ones (linux, vt100, xterm, etc).
Best will be generate ncurses with --with-termlib and move only libterm
to /%{_lib}. This library can bring some most offen used teminals
definition and all other shoud be moved for example to compat-terminfo
package.
> > - multiple digests operation (openssl, gnutls, nss .. some programs are
> > now linked with *all* avalaible implemntations 8-0 ),
>
> Yeah, I agree. OpenSSL seems to be the most comprehensive, but
> its licence stinks and this is why gnutls was written in the first
> place. Now that Mozilla adopted the triple MPL/GPL/LGPL license,
> there's no reason to keep gnutls any more.
>
> OpenSSL also tends to break its ABI very often and this is very
> annoying when upgrading to a new version of Fedora. I'd ditch
> that one too if wasn't used by so many packages.
I can't understand this situation. It is sick ..
Seems now strict license compliance is used only in libsoup and all
other cases current using gnutls for example in cups can be switched
between openssl and gnutls.
All this cases (current using gnutls) this very small subset of all
using SSL in distro. If in all other cases seems noone cares why now
some "for make this betetter" someone (temporary ?) decide for "make
this wors" ? Next ideology ?
For me preparing distribution it dominion of practise .. not ideology :>
Are you claiming that its ok to violate licenses as long as the other
end doesnt have lawyers? If its a license violation, it should be fixed.
Period.
Rahul