From: "Mark Bidewell" <mbidewel(a)gmail.com>
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
<devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:50:03 PM
Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adam Williamson <
awilliam(a)redhat.com > wrote:
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run
> organisation
> not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and
> hoping
> (as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the
> product
> they built on top of those collections is end-of-lifed
>
> I completely fail to see how entities with that problem will manage
> to
> maintain the package number explosion creating software collections
> will
> induce.
On the one hand, I agree completely - I think the 'share all
dependencies dynamically' model that Linux distros have traditionally
embraced is the right one, and that we're a strong vector for
spreading
the gospel when it comes to that model, and it'd be a shame to
compromise that.
On the other hand, we've been proselytizing the Java heretics for
over a
decade now, and the Ruby ones for a while, and neither shows any
signs
of conversion or just plain going away, so we may have to call it an
ecumenical matter and deal with their models somehow. Sucky as it may
be. I don't know, I'm a bit conflicted.
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I used to use Fedora as my primary OS (Now I use a Mac). The major
issue which drove me away and which I believe SC would help to solve
is that with the current dependency model is that it becomes I want
a new version of Libreoffice so now I have to upgrade my entire
system from the Kernel on up (and by upgrade I mean clean install)
to avoid issues. SC would help decouple system and userland apps
which would do wonders for usability.
So are you saying that you will do the scl enabled builds of libraries needed by
LibreOffice ?
Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team