On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 11:06 -0400, Dimi Paun wrote:
I'm not sure if people realize how unwelcomming this sort of
attitude is.
It's very much reminiscent of the in-group environment enjoyed in the core
BSD circles. It is bad. This is not how you build a community, even if
you are correct at a rational level.
I agree with the totality of this portion. Namely:
1) Many of the issues raised on this list do not belong here.
2) Many times the off-topic threads end with rude comments.
3) This is not a good way to encourage people to contribute to Fedora.
Ideas (possibly cracktastic) to change this:
1) Boilerplate similar to POSTISOFFTOPIC but specifically for addressing
issues to upstream. A group of volunteers to send the actual message
whenever a post is off topic. Everyone else agrees to ignore off-topic
posts.
2) Start a project to package different default values for Extras. We
have redhat-rpm-config changing rpm and fedora-release changing the
config of yum. Maybe there should be a poweruser-gconf-tweaks. (More
seriously, it should probably be more like config-nautilus-nonspatial,
config-rpmbuild-userdirs, config-metacity-focusfollows, etc) this can
work for things that just require default config changes but will not
work for compilation/upstream code changes.
3) Express interest in following upstream developments. Encourage the
opening of
bugzilla.redhat.com bugs with upstream bug #'s for these
issues. There's no commitment to make changes, just a commitment to
actively monitor what upstream has to say about the issue and if
upstream commits to making a change, we'll do the same.
4) <Your wildly creative back of the envelope idea here>
-Toshio