On Thursday 04 March 2010 15:30:43 Juha Tuomala wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> current stable release nor support an official backports repo, an
> unofficial one will no doubt spring up, or an existing unofficial repo
> will pick up that role (for KDE, kde-redhat stable would probably be
> revived, currently it's mostly empty for Fedora as the kind of stuff
> which would be in there is usually just pushed as official Fedora
Go ahead, make that to your kde-hardcore-followers-repo. In my
understanding, that's what it has been for past years already
Third party repos are highway to hell unfortunately. Ask former OpenSuse users
:( Of course - it's one of solutions.
> I would argue having this within Fedora infrastructure would be
> it would prevent proliferation of third-party repos replacing Fedora
> packages and the resulting compatibility issues (see e.g. the chaos
> we're having for RHEL with third-party repositories replacing official
> packages with newer versions and the resulting dependency hell) and as
> it would also provide a place for new versions of less commonly-used
So the thing is that KDE SIG wants to prevent any other activity and
keep the strings in own hands. That's why nobody can't enjoy the
upstream's intended stability in bugfix releases and plan major
If someone wants to fork, whatever, let them do it. That's why
Fedora moves to the git, to make it easier.
> That said, IMHO the best solution is still to have this stuff in the
> official updates. But it's true that the kind of issues some users are
> having with KDE 4.4 are unfortunate. This particular Akonadi issue hasn't
> shown up during testing or it would have been considered a blocker.
What you've just proved could have been enough for some companies
trying to run Fedora on their employees desktops and they probably
think that they've seen enough. TCO is rising too high when you
cannot do sane stable release updates.
Fedora is not for companies - with one year of lifetime it's not very well
suited for any long-term deployment. Use Cent OS - it's not I don't want to
see Fedora there, it's just reality. And Cent OS is just older and more stable
In other words, SIG's current policy is doing more harm than
> But I think having yet another thread about update policies will be
> frowned upon by the moderators. Instead, let's please think about
> repairing this breakage now that it happened, i.e. get bug reports filed
Yes, let's fix the bug instead the policy that caused it in the
first place, sigh.
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