On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:14:08 +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:10:17 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> The practical point is that F12
> >> is about to go EOL which means the bug must be closed...
> > Why? Obviously it needs to be clear that nothing further should be
> > expected from the maintainer unless/until the version is bumped. But
> > the project can choose to indicate that by closing the bugs as
> > WONTFIX or some other way, e.g., another resolution or by customizing
> > Bugzilla to show a notice on bugs that are open against an EOL
> > version of Fedora. Personally, I dislike the use of WONTFIX because
> > philosophically I think it doesn't fit, and practically it makes
> > zapped bugs impossible to distinguish from real WONTFIX bugs in
> > searches (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528319
> This is my problem with the auto closing also. Leaving a bug open
> allows a more dedicated maintainer to come along (even years later) and
> actually fix or even apply patches that are still relevant without
> wasting time with bugs that we're actually looked at and legitimately
Years later pretty much every bug will be irrelevant thanks to the
underlying changes that happen with every release and asking submitters
to verify that the bug is still there is the right way to go. After all
8 out of 10 abrt submitted bugs against Eclipse stays months with
questions and needinfo flags and no response from submitters.
Note that I'm not saying these bugs shouldn't be submitted sometimes
even just because for the 2 submitters that answer questions but I
definitely don't want to waste my time closing the rest of them.
"Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every release's
lifetime, sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events. "
This is the best we can do no matter what we want to do!
P.S. Believe me having open bugs that both the packager and the
submitter care for are useless and these are the kind of bugs that get
auto closed. If one of them cares he will change the version flag. Oh
and looking at a list of hundreds bugs makes things close to impossible
to put priorities, fix and improve the situation.
I understand what your saying. After some consideration, my issues are:
1. I don't respond to autobots.
2. If the maintainer doesn't care, I don't care. Thus I'm not gonna tick
of some version flag or something.
I think what would help moving forward, (without having to do away with
the autobots, which I welcome) is what Matt said... that the autobots did
not "CLOSE", but had some different status, such as: "AUTO-CLOSED".