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On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:50 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the user/dep issue is orthogonal to the issue at hand. Sure,
marking it as user installed probably masks the bug, but that's not a
proper fix. The core of the issue is that we have a package somewhere
that needs sqlite-libs, but isn't expressing it in their dependencies,
so rpm let's you remove sqlite-libs breaking that other package.

Below is the output of dnf autoremove from my system.  Am I correctly interpreting this that dnf thinks that all these packages 
can be removed?  If that is the case, I would think we have a serious issue.  Even if this issue has been identified and corrected
going forward, there is a big mess to clean up.  Are we assuming that when systems upgrade to F24 this will be resolved?  If so, 
I can accept that, but we really need to put out some kind of explicit and obvious warning to F23 customers if this is the case.

If the issue is that people aren't correctly expressing dependencies in their spec files, then something should be done about that.

NetworkManager-adsl                           x86_64     1:1.0.12-2.fc23       @updates-testing       31 k 
NetworkManager-bluetooth                      x86_64     1:1.0.12-2.fc23       @updates-testing       93 k
NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora     x86_64     1:1.0.12-2.fc23       @updates-testing       88   
NetworkManager-openswan                       x86_64     1.0.8-3.fc23          @updates-testing      278 k
NetworkManager-wwan                           x86_64     1:1.0.12-2.fc23       @updates-testing      103 k
adobe-source-han-sans-tw-fonts                noarch     1.004-2.fc23          @updates-testing       38 M
bluedevil                                     x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      1.8 M
breeze-gtk                                    x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      2.0 M
dnf-plugin-system-upgrade                     noarch     0.7.1-1.fc23          @updates-testing       87 k
dpkg                                          x86_64     1.17.25-6.fc23        @@commandline         6.1 M
dpkg-perl                                     noarch     1.17.25-6.fc23        @@commandline         564 k
execstack                                     x86_64     0.5.0-9.fc23          @@commandline         227 k
js-jquery                                     noarch     2.1.3-2.fc23          @@commandline         478 k
kde-gtk-config                                x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      719 k
kdeplasma-addons                              x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      7.8 M
kf5-bluez-qt                                  x86_64     5.22.0-1.fc23         @updates-testing      744 k
kf5-kross-core                                x86_64     5.22.0-1.fc23         @updates-testing      1.0 M
kf5-kross-ui                                  x86_64     5.22.0-1.fc23         @updates-testing      783 k
kf5-kwindowsystem-devel                       x86_64     5.22.0-1.fc23         @updates-testing      208 k
khelpcenter                                   x86_64     1:5.6.2-1.fc23        @kde-unstable         3.3 M
kinfocenter                                   x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      7.3 M
kscreen                                       x86_64     1:5.6.4-1.fc23        @updates-testing      803 k
ksshaskpass                                   x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing       98 k
ksysguard                                     x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      2.5 M
ksysguardd                                    x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      156 k
kwalletmanager                                x86_64     15.04.3-3.fc23        @updates-testing      903 k
kwayland-integration                          x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      111 k
liberation-fonts                              noarch     1:1.07.4-6.fc23       @@commandline           0   
liberation-narrow-fonts                       noarch     1:1.07.4-6.fc23       @@commandline         476 k
libgudev-devel                                x86_64     230-2.fc23            @@commandline         282 k
libreswan                                     x86_64     3.17-2.fc23           @updates-testing      3.6 M
live555-libs                                  x86_64     2016.03.14-2.fc23     @fedora-HandBrake     1.2 M
lttng-ust                                     x86_64     2.6.2-2.fc23          @@commandline         809 k
lxqt-config                                   x86_64     0.10.0-5.fc23         @kde-unstable         1.1 M
nodejs-couch-login                            noarch     0.1.18-3.fc23         @@commandline          20 k
p7zip                                         x86_64     15.14.1-1.fc23        @updates-testing      1.9 M
pam-kwallet                                   x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing       40 k
perl-IO-Tty                                   x86_64     1.12-3.fc23           @@commandline          79 k
perl-IPC-Run                                  noarch     0.94-3.fc23           @@commandline         317 k
perl-encoding                                 x86_64     3:2.17-4.fc23         @updates-testing      128 k
perl-open                                     noarch     1.10-351.fc23         @updates-testing       12 k
plasma-desktop-doc                            noarch     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      3.2 M
plasma-nm                                     x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      3.9 M
plasma-nm-openconnect                         x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      234 k
plasma-nm-openswan                            x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      133 k
plasma-nm-openvpn                             x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      654 k
plasma-nm-pptp                                x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      243 k
plasma-nm-vpnc                                x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      388 k
python-di                                     noarch     0.3-5.fc23            @@commandline          42 k
python-dnf-langpacks                          noarch     0.15.1-1.fc23         @@commandline          76 k
python-louis                                  noarch     2.6.2-3.fc23          @@commandline          25 k
python-ntplib                                 noarch     0.3.3-1.fc23          @@commandline          30 k
python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade             noarch     0.7.1-1.fc23          @updates-testing       95 k
python2-dnf-plugins-core                      noarch     0.1.21-1.fc23         @updates-testing      334 k
python2-markdown                              noarch     2.6.6-1.fc23          @updates-testing      914 k
python3-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade             noarch     0.7.1-1.fc23          @updates-testing       86 k
qemu-guest-agent                              x86_64     2:2.4.1-9.fc23        @updates-testing      414 k
qt4-style-oxygen                              x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      1.3 M
quazip-qt5                                    x86_64     0.7.1-3.fc23          @@commandline         232 k
sddm-kcm                                      x86_64     5.6.4-1.fc23          @updates-testing      365 k
sudo                                          x86_64     1.8.15-1.fc23         @updates-testing      2.4 M
tomcat-servlet-3.1-api                        noarch     1:8.0.32-5.fc23       @updates-testing      296 k
trousers-lib                                  i686       0.3.13-5.fc23         @@commandline         486 k
userspace-rcu                                 x86_64     0.8.6-2.fc23          @@commandline         410 k
web-assets-filesystem                         noarch     5-3.fc23              @@commandline           0   
zsh                                           x86_64     5.1.1-4.fc23          @updates-testing      6.2 M