On Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 12:47 Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@pingoured.fr> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:02:46PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> > You seem to totally miss the point - there is no one even trying to ship
> > Maven as a traditional package so what should we do give up on having
> > anything built with Maven in the distro?
>
> If module-only packages finally get banned (as they should have been from
> the onset), the Maven maintainers will HAVE TO maintain the non-modular
> version if they want to maintain Maven at all.

You're assuming they will want to.
I agree with Kevin Fenzi's email that the here the input from the people who
have made the choice to go full-modular would be nice.

If we follow your hard rule we may end up choosing between:
- java/maven being available as module
- no java/maven at all in Fedora
  (this modulo the heroic efforts of the stewardship SIG - itself modulo the
  fact that the SIG defines itself has a temporary solution [1])

FWIW, since I don't see the Java SIG rising from the ashes that were left by it burning to the ground anytime soon, we definitely *will continue* to maintain critical packages for the foreseeable future. So maven and all  its dependencies are safe. I also have early plans to update it to the 3.6 branch for f32. 

I will later update the wiki page to reflect the current reality. The documents in our pagure project should be up to date though.

Fabio


You say that modularity is making people leave but this applies to any changes,
including the one you are proposing here.


Pierre


[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Stewardship
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