Hi,

I am not a developer, I do rely on accessibility such as orca.  I think the last time I tested it, the image booted but there seems to be know way to get orca speaking so could not test accessibility of installing.  I am guessing this is being taking into account?  As it stands now, if an orca user wants to install fedora workstation, you have to switch to org session rather than Wayland to get the current installer to work.  This is just my thoughts of a general fedora user.  Fear mate works fine however.

Matthew



On Jun 27, 2023, at 7:11 PM, Jonathan Steffan <jonathansteffan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Aoife Moloney <amoloney@redhat.com> wrote:
== Summary ==
The new PatternFly-based UI has been developed by the Anaconda team
for some time now and we would like to make it available for users of
Fedora to enhance and modernize installation experience. As the first
step in this user adoption process, we are targeting Fedora
Workstation only.

I was pleasantly surprised with the progress here based on the test image I randomly stumbled upon this year. It's a big change from the familiar and should be treated as such.

Does it make more sense to focus efforts on releasing an official alternative Workstation install ISO? Generally, when you make people feel like they are forced to change it's more likely to cause frustration. We could make this more a celebration, a special access/preview to what is next, and attract testers on https://fedoraproject.org/workstation/ with some simple messaging. Completely understood that this would add yet another QA target and that might be more burdensome than it's worth. 

If changing the default install experience is the main goal, we should start producing install media as soon as possible and promote it through the F38 cycle. Maybe as part of the respin process in F38. The more comfortable everyone is with this change, before the F39 release day, the more likely this change will be well received.
 
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