On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 5:01 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:26:29AM +0200, Adam Samalik wrote:
> > Would it be necessary for us to pick one or the other here? IOW,
> > whether the maintainer picked a specific date or a release, the EOL
> > would resolve to a date. If they pick none, or explicitly choose
> > 'rawhide,' then the artifact is essentially on a rolling window.
> Yeah... that's a good point. Maybe having the ability to specify EOL as a
> specific Fedora release or a date could be a good way forward. I like that.


I don't think we should use "rawhide" to mean "rolling updates", because it
also has the implication of "project devel stream".

Just to make sure we're on the same page: I was talking about specifying an EOL field, not a stream name. Is that what you mean, too?

I know this was talked about a long time ago, but I'm not sure how it came
down in practice: what's the tooling and workflow for moving users to a new
stream when a stream reaches EOL?

For example, Rawtherapee, which has a fairly traditional major/minor
versioning scheme. Upstream provides downloads for old versions, but doesn't
really support them. And, explicitly they say everyone should be on the
latest stable release -- they didn't support a 4.x branch when 5.0 came out.

From a user point of view, the three streams I might
want to choose from are:

* Rolling always latest
* Nightly dev builds!
* A conservative stream which updates annually (or less!), ideally with
  backports for critical security bugs

Yes!

Also, probably not in the Rawtherapee example, but a specific version stream is an option, too, like we have with nodejs. 
 

I know there was pushback against naming stream branches "stable", so is
there a good _other_ way to offer this? If I name the stream branch "5"
after the upstream major release, how do I get people in the first case
seamlessly on to "6" when it comes out, whenever that is?

"latest" would be the best option here: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/naming-guidelines/#_module_stream_name 


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