So I may have missed the latest shiny plans here - I thought the planOn Wed, 2018-06-27 at 18:18 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:30 PM Adam Williamson
> <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2018-06-27 at 16:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 02:54:07PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > > > IMHO deprecate != remove, but rather mark for removal in some next release.
> > > > > Should the change be called differently?
> > > >
> > > > Especially since Yum has been called "yum-deprecated" for several
> > > > releases already.
> > >
> > > How about "Replace Yum 3 with Yum 4, powered by DNF"? This would bring
> > > us in line with what's happening in the Enterprise Linux space.
> > >
> > > (See
> > > https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/ )ConfigManagementSIG/YUM4
> >
> > But in Fedora land, we've spent several years selling the message "yum
> > is gone and replaced with this new thing called dnf". It would be
> > rather confusing to suddenly start selling the message "oh hey yum is
> > back only now it's sort of dnf but sort of not dnf".
>
> It's still dnf. In fact, I believe /usr/bin/dnf would even still
> exist. However, dnf has come significantly closer to yum
> functionality since it was first introduced and reuniting isn't a bad
> idea.
>
> I understand where you're coming from, but I think we should take the
> opportunity to correct now. We (and I do mean we as someone that
> pushed for not calling it yum) had valid reasons to separate it in the
> past, but those reasons are becoming increasingly invalid. Sticking
> with the dnf name is going to become a forced split going forward for
> little benefit. I'm happy to eat my own words and say we should
> probably focus around a single package manager name at this point.
>
> > It's different from the EL situation because EL never really had the
> > "dnf is the new thing" phase. If you're going from EL 7 to The Next EL
> > you're just going from yum 3 to "yum 4".
>
> Yeah, but if you play in both spaces continuing to call it "dnf" in
> Fedora and "yum4" in EL is forcing a mental break that doesn't really
> need to be there.
was that dnf would provide a 'yum' CLI command which was as close as
possible to compatible with yum 3, but *also* provide a 'dnf' CLI
command which was more like the 'current' dnf CLI in Fedora. Is that
still the case? Or is there just going to be one true CLI command now?