Dne 11.9.2015 v 19:29 Reindl Harald napsal(a):
Am 11.09.2015 um 19:17 schrieb Zdenek Kabelac:
> Dne 11.9.2015 v 18:22 Reindl Harald napsal(a):
>>> In non-Fedora 'world' it's the user who picks what he want to
use,
>>> however in Fedora 'garden' a few people selects what user may use
and
>>> puts huge walls and pointless obstacle all around if they want to use
>>> something else - yes I fail to see why this should be good for me....
>>
>> really?
>>
>> that must be the reason why i run Fedora successful for 7 years now on
>> all
>> sort of production and development servers and chose for myself which
>> version
>> of mysql, php, postfix, dovecot, dbmail and what not is running and
>> when it is
>> deplyoed independent of Fedora reelase cycles in both directions (holding
>> major upgrades back as well as make them long before Fedora)
>
> We are finally getting to the point....
>
> How many machines do you need to use for that setup?
2 - one to test and 1 production host backed by a failover machine running a
dozens of VM's but *not* because different versions but because of different
services / customers and security profiles
> I prefer to use 1 system on 1 hardware on 1 disk - no kvm, no qemu.
> And even containers are not a good fit - thought getting close....
and because you don't want to handle modern technologies like virtualization
others should suck tainting a clean installation?
> Why I cannot use multiple different versions of php on a SINGLE machine ?
> Why I cannot use some 10 years old graphical program (unless I do a
> local static compilation, so I'm sure it will work) ?
uhm i know people which can even configure each of their customers on a single
machine for different php-versions selecting 4.x, 5.0, 5.1, 5.3, 5.4 and 5.5
currently.................
Trust me - I'm quite well aware how to handle cases like this -
my machine must be immune against many troubles the life with rawhide could
bring-in.
You still fail to see my point here is -
WHY Fedora make things so complicated - sometimes one may even think there is
a team of people who do nothing else then try to just think what they could
still break even more....
Instead of making life easier - there are more and more technologies brought
in, which even make it impossible to boot my system with 2 year old kernel!
And no 'KVM'/virtualiation is not solution - it's a workaround with it's
price...
Zdenek