On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 03:59:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 15:53 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > I don't really see any reason why *everyone* who's a packager
shouldn't
> > also have signed up to be a proven tester by now. I'd like to ask if
> > anyone has a perception that it's a hard process to get involved in, or
> > if they got the impression that they *shouldn't* get engaged in it, or
> > something like that. Maybe we can improve the presentation to make it
> > clear that this really ought to be a very wide-based process.
> >
> With that in mind, perhaps we should have being added to the packager group
> automatically put you in the proventester group. If you turn out to be
> a problem we can then remove you from the proventester group until you've
> learned how you should be testing. (On the implementation side, we should
> have this ability in fas since we do something similar to put people who
> sign the cla into the cla_done group automatically).
I'm not sure I'd want to go quite that far unless the sign-up process
can wave the proven testers instructions in your face quite prominently.
They're short and easy to read and understand, but you can't infer them
from first principles: we do want to have people read the proven tester
instructions before becoming proven testers. That's actually the *only*
requirement to become a proven tester. :)
We don't have an automated process for showing people the rest of the wiki
pages with packager information either. If we added the information to this
page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process
after step #9, 'Request updates for Fedora release branches, if necessary,
using "fedpkg update" or another Bodhi interface as detailed in Bodhi
Guide_.'
would that be sufficient? It would be the same amount of information as the
rest of the package process gets.
Note that the lack of a link to the proventester information on that page is
probably another reason that people (new people at least) don't know that
they should join proventester.
-Toshio