On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 18:35 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 13:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Darko Ilic wrote:
>
> > I wanted to ask what are the opinions on the subject, and is there any chance
> > for SquashFS to make it's way into Fedora kernel by FC5? I`ve heard it was
> > submitted to LKML recently and there was some discussions surrounding that
> > and that it is a likely candidate for the upstream kernel.
>
> If it makes it upstream, then most likely, yes.
I'd like to see a quality Fedora LiveCD. At my day job we're
evaluating
livecds for kiosks, recovery, and lab installs. What has struck me in
recent days is that they're _all_ Debian based. If we want this to
change, we need to create liveCDs that
squashfs and unionfs are both kernel modules that are pretty
standard
fare in the liveCD world but are not part of the mainline kernel. We
need to include them in Fedora in order to advance our reputation in the
liveCD arena.
I spoke with Andrew Morton about unionfs when we were both at Linux
Lunacy V. He stated that nobody had approached him or Linus about
unionfs and they had not heard a peep about it. But, if someone wants
to submit patches and follow up on it, they are more than willing to
look it over and consider it.
So, as far as unionfs goes, it's up to the developers to approach the
kernel people about inclusion in the upstream sources. So someone needs
to push the unionfs developers.
There are three alternatives here. 1) We don't care about
LiveCDs. If
you want to make a serious LiveCD based on Fedora, you have to fork and
maintain some packages outside of the Fedora arena. 2) We get these
integrated into Core despite the fact that they aren't upstream
[Example: GFS] 3) We integrate these modules in Extras.
Is this important enough to Red Hat that Core manpower can be expended
to make this happen? Or can we finally muster the will to package
kernel modules for Extras _knowing_ that the policies and proceedures we
set out in the first cut will need to be revised, possibly with a great
deal of pain?
Sorry for the emotion but kernel modules are currently stuck in a very
undesirable limbo that's not doing Fedora as a whole any good.
-Toshio
PS - I discovered that work has one old Puppy Linux disk so that's one
non-Debian distro... It's not Fedora-based, though.
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