On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 04:44:19 -0500 (EST)
Bohuslav Kabrda <bkabrda(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I just had a quick IRC chat with DNF maintainer and he said we still
wants to switch to py3 for F22.
Lovely.
Perhaps we could get the dnf folks, anaconda, qa and fesco all together
in one place to discuss this?
> We will not be replacing python2 entirely, it and packages that
> depend on it will still be available for now.
Doesn't [1] say it?
Fair enough. I looked for that wording and didn't see it. ;(
Yeah, as noted by Stephen Smoogen, I think the problem is
communication here. Judging from reactions of people who I talked to,
everyone takes it as "FESCo thinks that Python 3 is not ready and not
the way to go right now". That's also what I thought when I read
simple "defer this to F23". After these conversations here I'm
starting to understand that this is not a message that FESCo meant to
send. "Python 3 migration improvements" sounds about right to me and
seems to send a better message than just deferring to F23. Can
someone from FESCo comment on this? If this sounds ok, shall I create
a change page for it?
I'm personally in favor of that, but I'm also in favor of deferring the
dnf and anaconda python3 changes. But thats just IMHO.
As I noted above, DevAssistant devels have been using python3-dnf
for
quite some time now without any issues. I've written couple of
scripts using python3-dnf and run them regularly without any issue. I
even replaced "#!/usr/bin/python" by "!#/usr/bin/python3"
in /usr/bin/dnf some time ago and everything still works (how ugly is
that? :)). I know, that's not extensive testing, but it's certainly
not zero.
ok. Fair enough. Some small amount of testing. :)
It's not at all the same scale as: "Been in fedora for years and we
have asked people to test it a bunch for the last few years".
I'm using dnf-3 here now and haven't hit any dnf-3 specific bugs, but
that again is a small sample size.
> * anconda switches to python3 (it's almost ready, but no
telling
> what issues we will hit, it's not even landed yet).
>
> Should we toss in a UI redesign so we can have Fedora 18 again?
> (sorry, that was rude of me)
Why not :)
You weren't here for Fedora 18 were you? ;)
I'd say we should leave this up to developers of DNF and
Anaconda.
They're the best ones to say whether they're ready or not.
I suppose so, but I think we should also take into account QA and
others input.
kevin