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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:04:51PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> The all or nothing element in the above simply serves to discourage
> further contribution and is harming Fedora's growth. The relentless
> "I don't want ARM to sully the good name of Fedora" is absurd: User
> for user, ARM is considerably more popular than Fedora. Is your
> definition of "Primary" a sacred idea that is responsible for
> Fedora's success? If held dear for too long it will be the well
> known idea responsible for its failure.
CPUs are an implementation detail. The experience of running Fedora on
ARM should be as close as possible to that of running Fedora on x86. If
we're willing to compromise on that, then what do we actually mean by
"Fedora"? Something that shares a majority of the packages? Well, in
that case any of the spins would also be Fedora, but we draw a
distinction between a spin and the general install media.
But spins are Fedora, same as cloud image is still Fedora (and I don't
see complaints it does not run Gnome Shell ;-). Desktop spin is one
spin of the many spins but we promote it (for several reasons) more than
others. So again - I don't see this as a problem with having ARM as PA
(I can see other issues like HW availability, build times, resources) but
having an ARM spin composed from primary builds with a DE that suits
still limited resources on ARM machines - no problem at all. Even blocking
desktop release criteria are fulfilled this way as we don't require for
example LXDE spin to ship Gnome and KDE ;-).
This isn't some new distinction that I'm pulling out of the
air. We've
always had a strong idea of what Fedora is and a defined marketing
message that distinguishes between Fedora and something that's
almost-but-not-quite Fedora. Right now the proposal is for something
that's almost-but-not-quite Fedora to be treated as if it's Fedora, and
I don't think that benefits the public perception of the project.
Almost-but-not-quite Fedora are remixes. Even now Fedora ARM is Fedora,
just a secondary architecture - it's actually more a technical detail
where the builds are done. So we already consider it Fedora! It's not
going to change with ARM being primary.
Jaroslav
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