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Cc: on dead packages
by Bastien Nocera 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

Hey, Apparently, people can still file bugs for dead packages: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114180 And I (and many others) get CC:ed on those bugs files, with no possibility to remove ourselves from the CC: in pkgdb. Any idea where I should be filing a bug for this bug? Cheers

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Review swaps
by Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

Would anyone like to swap reviews? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112864 elpa - High-performance library for parallel solution of eigenvalue problems This is an optional dependency of cp2k-2.5+ (and comes bundled in cp2k-2.4). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1082825 mozilla-lightbeam - An add-on for visualizing HTTP requests between websites in real time In other words, see who's tracking you online. Regards, -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations"

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Fedora 21 Changes Freeze in two weeks - 2014-07-08
by Jaroslav Reznik 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

Greetings! Fedora 21 Changes Freeze is currently scheduled to no earlier than 2014-07-08 [1] and we're getting closer to this date. Btw this is also Fedora 21 Branch from Rawhide date. At this point, all accepted changes should be substantially complete, and testable. Additionally, if a change is to be enabled by default, it must be so enabled at Change Freeze. Change tracking bug should be set to the MODIFIED state to indicate it achieved completeness. [2] As Fedora 21 scope is really huge, progress at Changes Freeze will help us to think about where we are and what we can do for this release. This applies not only to change owners but to all other groups - especially from WGs and teams involved in Fedora re-design. Let us know if you're blocked, if you need any help etc. or just to say, hey, we're ready :). Jaroslav [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/Schedule [2] http://bit.ly/f21changesfreeze _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?
by Sandro Mani 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Hi, From time to time, I see trivial patches posted in bugzilla which end up sitting there because the maintainer is too busy / gets bombarded with tons of bugzilla mails and misses that particular one / whatever reason. As a packager, sometimes it seems very hard to get such trivial patches applied. What you can do is - You can keep pinging bugzilla - You can apply for commit rights, which might be excessive for just this one patch, and still requires the maintainer to answer. - You can start the non-responsive maintainer procedure, even if you know perfectly well that the maintainer is still active. Or you might suspect that the maintainer is inactive, but you'd rather not have to wait for an entire month, because this one bug is blocking your work. - You can start asking on irc for a proven packager to jump in and hope a proven packager is online and has time at that moment. - You can post on -devel, though again, unless someone has time right now it gets forgotten an people move on. - Repeat the above n times until someone shouts at you and flags your email as spam :) So wondering, if there is a way we can improve the situation. One idea which comes to mind would be something like "trivial patch policy" - after i.e. one week of inactivity one can flag such a bug as a trivial bug. You can only do so if you are a packager and post a patch (which also updates the SPEC, so just a matter of apply patch, fedpkg commit & build). - for anything else than packaging issues, the patch may only be a well justified upstream commit backport - a proven packagers gets notified about the issue, validates the patch and if ok fires the update. The entire thing might work similar to how a New Package / Package Change request works, by posting something like this to the bug: Trivial Patch Request ===================== Patch[branch]: Patch[other_branch]: Reason: Upstream commit: Submitter: From my experience such situations do not occur too frequently, but when they happen, they can be hard to deal with. Comments? Thanks, Sandro

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Self Introduction: David Nichols
by David Nichols 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Hello, My name is David Nichols, and I'm the author of the Qore programming language. I've recently made a package submission request to Fedora for Qore, which is under review here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1111691 I've been running fedora (and before that redhat) for many years, and use fedora and redhat extensively at home and at work. I've been packaging qore with RPM for many years, but now I'm getting into Fedora-specific packaging, and have found that my RPM skills were out of date and, even though I've been providing 3rd-party RPMs for Fedora for many years, I have found through the review process that I had a lot to learn. Fortunately there is a lot of documentation, and also I've gotten a lot of constructive advise in the qore review. My goal is to become the maintainer of Qore for Fedora, and since I'm responsible for upstream development as well, I can make sure that the Fedora packages remain high-quality. I hope everyone who has read this far has a great day :) thanks, David

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F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF
by Jaroslav Reznik 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

= Proposed System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF Note: This is Fedora 22 proposal! Change owner(s): Aleš Kozumplík <kozumplik(a)gmail.com> Make DNF/Yum4 the new default packaging tool in F22. == Detailed Description == DNF was forked from Yum in January 2012 and available for experimenting in Fedora since release 18 [1]. The project is now fully capable of replacing Yum in new Fedora installations. We want DNF to become the new default packaging tool in Fedora 22. This entails: * letting system administrators (including users who routinely manage their packages using the legacy Yum) perform all common packaging operations using DNF, with no or minimal and documented [2] change to the command syntax, apart from replacing the command name. (done) * providing implementation of Anaconda backend so system can be bootstrapped completely without using legacy Yum. (done) * providing alternative to all Yum plugins from yum-utils (ongoing) * providing alternative to all release engineering tools (repoquery, bodhi etc.) from yum-utils (ongoing) * being ready/having the capacity to help out users with migration of their custom legacy plugins and extensions to DNF. The solid API documentation [3] we provide is of great advantage here. (ongoing) In practice, the change implies: * Anaconda installs the system using the DNF backend (with no special switches) * package 'dnf' is installed by default (referenced by the base comps groups) * package 'dnf-yum-compat-command' is installed by default. It obsoletes Yum and provides its own <code>/usr/bin/yum</code>, a short script that redirects to <code>/usr/bin/dnf</code> with an appropriate warning message that DNF is the preferred package manager now. Notice that upgrading F21 to F22 will not cause the compat package to be installed so will not disturb any upgrading users. == Scope == This change will be completely transparent for users that use only the graphical package management tools. For anybody using the command line directly there will be some differences, but all the important operations are available with DNF, using the same CLI syntax. * Proposal owners: The majority of tasks on this change are completed. Some plugins and API calls still need to be added. The Anaconda payload implementation needs more testing, Fedora Test Day for this is pending. * Other developers: We provide the paylaod implementation for Anaconda developers. Developers of other extensions and developers of plugins that are not part of yum-utils will have to update their code. * Release engineering: Release engineering tools that are internal to the releng teams and not part of yum-utils will need modifications to migrate to the DNF API. * Policies and guidelines: None at the moment. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF [2] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html [3] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/api.html _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Mule Orphaned Package
by tspauld98＠yahoo.com 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Hi All, I'm a mule developer and fedora user. Recently, I noticed that the version of mule packaged with fedora is not only very behind the current upstream version but it is also orphaned. I'd like to take over maintaining the packaging of mule on fedora if there are no objections. Thanks, Tim

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Bugzilla column width - only 80+1 characters!?
by poma 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Welcome to the 21st century! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114075 poma

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF
by Vikram Goyal 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

After going through the thread, a revelation, a deep understanding occured. There is always a confusion regarding Linux, why does it not get popular even when being the best (Am Beston;) OS in the whole Universe. <OMG>, it was not renamed even once since the nineties even when the hole f^%(*g thing was qoverhowled a million times. <OMG> The hole f^%(*g thing things should be renamed: Some Samples, Linodora LindaGoodman LindoGoodWoman IamBadMan URHole IMPole Cat has changed its codebase by around 87.73% since it was last christened cat & does not justifies anymore to be called cat. Some suggestions. Dog God Goddamn Kutta Billie Billy Bitch etc.... These are just some samples, Feel free to append your own. The whole OS along with all its binaries, packages etc need a naming over hole. Thank you very much for your precious time. Mucchaas Gracias, Great Going down the drain. Splosh.....

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[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates
by Nobody 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

Change in package status over the last 168 hours ================================================ 14 packages were orphaned ------------------------- SOAPpy [f19, master, f20, el5] was orphaned by pingou Full-featured SOAP library for Python https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/SOAPpy copr [f20, master] was orphaned by msuchy Cool Other Package Repo https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/copr java-1.7.0-openjdk [master] was orphaned by dbhole OpenJDK runtime environment https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/java-1.7.0-openjdk jbosscache-core [master] was orphaned by mizdebsk JBoss object cache https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jbosscache-core jbosscache-support [master] was orphaned by mizdebsk JBossCache support package https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jbosscache-support kf5-textwidgets [master] was orphaned by dvratil KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 3 addon with advanced text editing widgets https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/kf5-textwidgets pcp-gui [master, f19, el6, f20, el5] was orphaned by nathans Visualization tools for the Performance Co-Pilot toolkit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/pcp-gui perl-Language-Expr [master] was orphaned by churchyard Simple mini-language for use in expression https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-Language-Expr postgresql-table_log [f20, master] was orphaned by devrim Log data changes in a PostgreSQL table https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/postgresql-table_log postler [master] was orphaned by thm An ultra simple desktop mail client https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/postler python-flask [epel7] was orphaned by codeblock A micro-framework for Python based on Werkzeug, Jinja 2 and good intentions https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-flask python-werkzeug [epel7] was orphaned by codeblock The Swiss Army knife of Python web development https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-werkzeug synapse [master] was orphaned by renich a mono-free alternative to gnome-do https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/synapse wacomexpresskeys [master] was orphaned by arozansk Wacom ExpressKeys and Touch Strips configuration utility https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/wacomexpresskeys 0 packages were retired ------------------------ 16 packages unorphaned ---------------------- barry [f19, master, f20] was unorphaned by cicku BlackBerry Desktop for Linux https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/barry cbmc [f19, master, f20] was unorphaned by jjames Bounded Model Checker for ANSI-C and C++ programs https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/cbmc cgnslib [master, f19, el6, f20] was unorphaned by cicku Computational Fluid Dynamics General Notation System https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/cgnslib ghc-chalmers-lava2000 [f19, master, f20] was unorphaned by petersen A Hardware description library for Haskell https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/ghc-chalmers-lava2000 ghemical [f20, master] was unorphaned by cicku Molecular mechanics and quantum mechanics front end for GNOME https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/ghemical liboglappth [f20, master] was unorphaned by cicku An OpenGL wrapper library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/liboglappth mimetic [f19, master] was unorphaned by limb A full featured MIME library written in C++ https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/mimetic mpqc [f20, master] was unorphaned by cicku Ab-inito chemistry program https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/mpqc nesc [master, f19, el6, f20] was unorphaned by cicku Compiler used by TinyOS https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/nesc pam_script [master] was unorphaned by limb PAM module for executing scripts https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/pam_script perl-File-NFSLock [el5] was unorphaned by xavierb Perl module to do NFS (or not) locking https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-File-NFSLock pion-net [f19, master, f20] was unorphaned by cicku C++ library for building lightweight HTTP interfaces https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/pion-net postgresql-table_log [f19, el6, el5] was unorphaned by devrim Log data changes in a PostgreSQL table https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/postgresql-table_log redet [master, f19, el6, f20] was unorphaned by cicku Regular expression development and execution tool https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/redet umlgraph [master] was unorphaned by akurtakov Automated Drawing of UML Diagrams https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/umlgraph verbiste [f19, master, f20] was unorphaned by cicku French conjugation system https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/verbiste 0 packages were unretired ------------------------ 40 packages were given ------------------------- crystal [f19, master, f20] was given by limb to bnemec KDE window decoration https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/crystal cyrus-imapd [f19, master, f20] was given by mhlavink to pavlix A high-performance mail server with IMAP, POP3, NNTP and SIEVE support https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/cyrus-imapd gle [f19, master, f20] was given by limb to jussilehtola Graphics Layout Engine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/gle gpgme [f19, master, f20] was given by rdieter to tmraz GnuPG Made Easy - high level crypto API https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/gpgme hsqldb [f19, master, f20] was given by tradej to mizdebsk Hsqldb Database Engine https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/hsqldb httpd [f19, master, f20] was given by jorton to jkaluza Apache HTTP Server https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/httpd libFS [master, f19, el6, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libFS runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libFS libICE [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 ICE runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libICE libSM [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libSM runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libSM libX11 [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to ajax X.Org X11 libX11 runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libX11 libXau [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXau runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXau libXaw [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXaw runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXaw libXcomposite [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXcomposite runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXcomposite libXcursor [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXcursor runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXcursor libXdamage [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXdamage runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXdamage libXdmcp [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXdmcp runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXdmcp libXevie [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXevie runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXevie libXext [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXext runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXext libXfixes [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXfixes runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXfixes libXfont [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXfont runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXfont libXft [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXft runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXft libXinerama [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXinerama runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXinerama libXmu [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXmu/libXmuu runtime libraries https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXmu libXp [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXp runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXp libXpm [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXpm runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXpm libXrandr [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXrandr runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXrandr libXrender [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXrender runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXrender libXres [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXres runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXres libXt [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXt runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXt libXtst [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXtst runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXtst libXv [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXv runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXv libXvMC [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXvMC runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXvMC libXxf86dga [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXxf86dga runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXxf86dga libXxf86misc [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXxf86misc runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXxf86misc libXxf86vm [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libXxf86vm runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXxf86vm libdmx [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 DMX runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libdmx libfontenc [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libfontenc runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libfontenc libxkbfile [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to bentiss X.Org X11 libxkbfile runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libxkbfile openstack-glance [master, f19, el6, f20] was given by pbrady to jbernard OpenStack Image Service https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/openstack-glance xrestop [f19, master, f20] was given by kevin to jwrdegoede X Resource Monitor https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/xrestop 2 packages had new branches ------------------------ guake had a new branch: master for pingou by pingou Drop-down terminal for GNOME https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/guake libXScrnSaver had a new branches: f19, master, f20 for bentiss by kevin X.Org X11 libXss runtime library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/libXScrnSaver Sources: https://github.com/pypingou/fedora-owner-change

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