On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:47 +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Did you try it? And did it work? Normally yum will refuse to update
> when you try skipping more than a single version.
Define 'refuse'. It doesn't even *know*, generally.
I *often* update by two releases at a time. Sometimes more.
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:31 +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > Due to these installer problems we're probably not going to be able to
> > have an official PowerPC release for Fedora 15, but the goal is to
> > definitely get it done for Fedora 16.
> Am I interpreting this right that this effctively means we will have
> to run a new installation on PPC machines currently runninc F12?
Well, if you want to do a yum update, you don't *need* the installer
initrd to work :)
There's no real reason you shouldn't be able to update to the F15
packages even without an installer, surely?
My name is Nicholas van Oudtshoorn - long time Fedora user, first time
One of my jobs (apart from being a church pastor) involves taking care of
the IT systems for a local seminary here in Perth, Western Australia. We've
been running Fedora on our servers for several years now - basically because
it's the distro I find the most intuitive!
As part of my duties, I manage the seminary's library software - Koha.
Although this runs fine under Fedora, quite a few of it's dependencies are
not available in the Fedora repositories. Given the number of libraries
using koha (big and small - check out
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide ), I suspect that
rectifying this could be of some use!
To this end, I've started packaging up build requirements. The first package
I've made (boy - it's more complex than it seems at first :-) ) is for the
Zebra database engine. After that, I'd like to work on the perl packages
that are missing. (CPAN is useful - but yum is *so* much easier!) I'd also
like to see about updating the yaz package. (yaz is currently available in
Fedora - but is quite a few versions behind the upstream)
Anywho - just thought I'd introduce myself. I've loved using Fedora over the
last years - and am excited about the possibility of giving something back.
Nicholas van Oudtshoorn
I know that probably this is not the right place, but really i don't know how and where i can gather the attention on serius issue i have found on fedora 14.
the problem comes up this way:
1) boot in runlevel 3
2) enter the X environment with startx
3) try to logout
when i logout the screen remain freezed with the background image showed, keyboard and mouse are dead. The machine is still up and network reachable, but no X related process are still active. The problem comes up only with certain type of hardware. I reproduced the problem with vmware virtual hw and with a core i7, asus p6t mb and nvidia gt210.
I posted a lot of details on bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=665540), on the forum (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=256585) and on the user mailing list (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-January/391023.html).
Until now i was unable to gather the attention of a developer and the bug is still present, i have just done a test after having applied all the f14 updates.
This bug is preventing me to upgrade from f13 to f14 and really i don't now what else i can try.
Sorry again if i have bothered you on the dev mailing list.
Removing PackageKit In Fedora 14 was easy and painless since it causes up to
5 packages, all *really* related to PackageKit in the form of a yum-plugin
and few other things.
On Fedora 15, trying to "yum remove PackageKit" causes the system to attempt
removing up to 74 MB worth of software, including gdm, empathy, bluez and
gnome-shell !!!! Which is pointless.
Is it *really* required to have PackageKit so deeply integrated and made an
essential package on the system. AFAIK, it's essentially a helper and a
front-end for yum, right?
Is it possible to recover Fedora 14's lightweight dependencies set, for
I would like to invoke the EOL process for perl-Text-Aspell in
Rawhide. I will continue to maintain it in Fedora through the F-15
lifecycle, and in EPEL through the EPEL 6 lifecycle. The package is
already semi-crippled in EPEL 6, since only the aspell-en and
aspell-sk dictionaries are available in RHEL 6.
The packages that depend on perl-Text-Aspell in Rawhide are:
The packages that depend on perl-Text-Aspell in EPEL 6 are:
These packages should be migrated to perl-Text-Hunspell. I will wait
1 week before retiring perl-Text-Aspell in Rawhide to give the
maintainers of these packages a chance to decide what to do. If one
of you would like to take over maintenance, I will orphan the package
instead of retiring it.
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 17:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
= Followups =
#topic #515 Investigate a "features" repo for stable releases
#topic #517 Updates Metrics
#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags
= New business =
#topic #585 Plan date for dist-git branch renames
= Fedora Engineering Services tickets =
= Open Floor =
For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The
report of the agenda items can be found at
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting.