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Re: How do changes to the FHS happen ? [was Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?]
by Xose Vazquez Perez 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

David Lutterkort wrote: > How do changes to the FHS actually happen ? see: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6704952 > All I can find is the names > of the three past editors of the standard, and a mailing list that seems > to be overrun by spam. Someone should ask matti or davem to setup a new ml on vger. > Maybe it is time to set up such a group, e.g., by letting each distro > put one representative forward that will discuss and vote on FHS changes > on that distro's behalf. I think the group that Lennart worked with is a > very encouraging sign that something like this is possible. Distributions, and others companies interested in LiNUX/*BSD/UN*X. FHS is not only for LiNUX. -- «Allá muevan feroz guerra, ciegos reyes por un palmo más de tierra; que yo aquí tengo por mío cuanto abarca el mar bravío, a quien nadie impuso leyes. Y no hay playa, sea cualquiera, ni bandera de esplendor, que no sienta mi derecho y dé pecho a mi valor.»

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Re: Octave status update
by Henrique Junior 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Thank you for the great job. -- Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior >________________________________ >From: Orion Poplawski <orion(a)cora.nwra.com> >To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>; octave-forge-owner(a)fedoraproject.org >Cc: octave-owner(a)fedoraproject.org >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:35 PM >Subject: Octave status update > >- octave-3.4.0-5.fc15 has been submitted: > >https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/octave-3.4.0-5.fc15 > >This contains the latest macros and moves package to %{_libdir}/octave from >%{_libexecdir}/octave. Please test. > >- New octave packaging guidelines have been ratified. Announcement should >come soon. > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Octave >https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/61 > >- I've made an oct2spec packaging script, package submission is here: > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692257 > >It should be basically working. Thanks to José Abílio for helping here. > >- I've put a list of octave forge packages here: > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OrionPoplawski/Octave_Packages > >Perhaps people can sign up there for what packages they want to own. We're >going to need to make and review a bunch of packages. > >- I would also like to see 3.4.0 in EPEL 6, but will wait until we are >comfortable with it in F15. > >-- >Orion Poplawski >Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 >NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702 >3380 Mitchell Lane orion(a)cora.nwra.com >Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com >-- >devel mailing list >devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > >

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[Test-Announce] 2011-04-01 @ 17:00 UTC - F-15-Beta blocker bug review #4
by James Laska 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

# F15-Beta Blocker Review meeting #3 # Date: 2011-03-25 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Greetings, This Friday is April 1st. I was trying to cook up something clever for the blocker meeting, without causing too much heartache. I'm sure we can do better than ... * Today only, all bugs are file one, get one free! * All previously approved blocker bugs have been CLOSED WONTFIX * The first 50 bugs filed will be fixed immediately (limit 1 per user, offer not valid in Arizona) Good, glad I got that over with. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming... The fourth Beta blocker review meeting will be this Friday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll spend time reviewing proposed and accepted F-15-Beta blocker bugs. Please note that recent daylight savings changes may result in a different local time [1]. An updated list of blocker bugs is available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers. The list of bugs is also attached to this mail. We'll be reviewing the bugs to determine ... 1. whether they meet the Beta release criteria [2] and should stay on the list 2. are getting the attention they need For guidance on Blocker and Nice-to-have (NTH) bugs, checkout ... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_nth_bug_process == Suggested Meeting Preparation == Maintainers ... * If your bug is *not* MODIFIED ... this issue is at risk of slipping the F15 Beta release date * If your bug is in MODIFIED ... please make sure a build with the fix exists, and is available as a bodhi update. Testers ... * If you REPORT a bug ... please be responsive to any requests for additional information. * If a bug is in ON_QA ... please take a moment to apply the update, and post karma feedback [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Beta_Release_Criteria Thanks, James _______________________________________________ test-announce mailing list test-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce

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Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-03-30)
by Kevin Fenzi 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #515 Investigate a "features" repo for stable releases .fesco 515 #topic #517 Updates Metrics .fesco 517 #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags .fesco 563 = New business = #576 Encourage to be package maintainers to introduce themselves in devel list .fesco 576 #577 FHS exception for Heimdal .fesco 577 = Fedora Engineering Services tickets = https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/report/6 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting. kevin

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Guile 2.0.0
by Miroslav Lichvar 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Hi, guile-2.0.0 has been released, there are some important changes. - The license changed from LGPLv2+ to LGPLv3+. - The libguile API changed and there were also some changes in the language itself. Recompiling depending packages (with patching C code) probably won't be enough, patches for Scheme code might be necessary. - Guile now automatically compiles Scheme code to bytecode. For Scheme files that don't have the .go files beside them, they are generated and stored in $HOME/.cache/guile/ccache. It can be disabled (with huge performance penalty) by setting GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0. I think we might want to pregenerate them and store them in rpm, either in the spec file manually, or in a rpm script, similarly to python, but I'm not sure we should try to generate .go file for every .scm found in the buildroot as it might be a code for a different Scheme implementation. Suggestions? Do we want to keep this in a special rawhide koji target for now? Full changelog http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=guile.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS A scratch build if anyone wants to play with it now http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2893997 Repoquery lists these packages as using libguile: TeXmacs-1.0.7.9-3.fc16.src.rpm autogen-5.9.4-8.fc15.src.rpm coot-0.6.2-3.20110225svn3399.fc16.src.rpm denemo-0.8.20-2.fc15.src.rpm drgeo-1.1.0-18.fc15.src.rpm freehoo-3.5.3-4.20100314cvs.fc15.src.rpm freetalk-3.2-5.fc15.src.rpm g-wrap-1.9.11-4.fc12.src.rpm geda-gaf-1.6.2-1.fc16.src.rpm gnome-games-2.91.90-1.fc15.src.rpm gnotime-2.3.0-8.fc15.src.rpm gnubik-2.3-8.fc15.src.rpm gnucash-2.4.3-1.fc16.src.rpm gnurobots-1.2.0-8.fc15.src.rpm gnutls-2.10.5-1.fc16.src.rpm guile-cairo-1.4.0-9.fc15.src.rpm guile-gnome-platform-2.16.1-4.fc12.src.rpm gwave-2-18.20090213snap.fc13.src.rpm libctl-3.0.2-10.fc12.src.rpm lilypond-2.13.52-1.fc16.src.rpm mdk-1.2.5-3.fc15.src.rpm rumor-1.0.3b-4.fc15.src.rpm trackballs-1.1.4-14.fc15.src.rpm xbindkeys-1.8.3-2.fc15.src.rpm And these as depeding on guile in some other way: graphviz-2.26.3-4.fc16.src.rpm pingus-0.7.2-13.fc15.src.rpm -- Miroslav Lichvar

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Power Management Test Day (2011-03-24) recap
by Jaroslav Skarvada 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Hi, thanks all for participation in Power Management Test Day - we received great response. If you missed the event, you can still participate (all feedback is very valuable for us): http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-24 PM Test Day Stats: 28 unique participants 27 unique machines 30 participants in total 260 tests were finished in total 177 tests passed 37 tests passed with warning 46 tests failed It means that: 68% of tests passed 82% of tests passed (if counting warn as pass) Bugzilla: Several bugs were filled into bugzilla during the PM Test Day (listing bugs noted on the wiki): #663993 SELinux is preventing /sbin/consoletype from 'read' accesses on the file /var/log/pm-suspend.log. #684415 SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant from using the 'sys_module' capabilities. #684854 No tab-bar in powertop #690171 Some of tunables aren't changable back to bad #690177 tuned switch (stopping of ktune) profile problem #690194 tuned stalls when changing profiles #690476 "pm-suspend" does not suspend the system #690601 Acer Aspire: Power button still flashes orange after failed hibernation #691117 pm-hibernate of pm-utils deletes grub thanks Jaroslav Škarvada SIG/PowerManagement http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/PowerManagement

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Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?
by Xose Vazquez Perez 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Russ herrold wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> There are many directories already in Fedora that are not >> defined by FHS and even though we have asked them to update >> it (libexec, /selinux /sys etc), there is noone maintaining >> it. > This is stunningly untrue. I've worked for years in the > fields of LSB, FHS and LANANA to make sure there are traceable > paths for such requests. Post the URLs to your bugs in the > LSB / LF tracker if you assert you have done such like this? Reported: 2004-01-29 http://bugs.freestandards.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53

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GPU hanging(?) with latest mesa packages
by Ian Pilcher 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

I just tried the new mesa* packages in Fedora 15 updates-testing on my Sandy Bridge (Core i7 2600) system, and the results were not pretty. X was completely unusable, with both of my screens "flashing" solid black every few seconds. These messages appeared in the syslog: Mar 30 06:24:23 ian kernel: [ 4.755194] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0 Mar 30 06:25:55 ian kernel: [ 284.567706] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung Mar 30 06:25:55 ian kernel: [ 284.569394] [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -11 (awaiting 16876 at 16863, next 16877) Mar 30 06:26:03 ian kernel: [ 292.376873] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung Mar 30 06:26:03 ian kernel: [ 292.376901] [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -11 (awaiting 18211 at 18203, next 18212) Mar 30 06:26:11 ian kernel: [ 300.114203] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung Mar 30 06:26:11 ian kernel: [ 300.114242] [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -11 (awaiting 19295 at 19287, next 19296) Mar 30 06:26:51 ian kernel: [ 340.625444] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung Mar 30 06:26:51 ian kernel: [ 340.625472] [drm:i915_do_wait_request] *ERROR* i915_do_wait_request returns -11 (awaiting 44809 at 44798, next 44810) -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher arequipeno(a)gmail.com "If you're going to shift my paradigm ... at least buy me dinner first." ========================================================================

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Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?
by Xose Vazquez Perez 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Lennart Poettering wrote: > Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say "no > other directories below / are allowed"? I can't find that. And hence > this change is perfectly FHS compliant. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 Applications must never create or require special files or subdirectories in the root directory. Other locations in the FHS hierarchy provide more than enough flexibility for any package. *Applications*

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Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?
by Xose Vazquez Perez 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Ralf Corsepius wote: > It's a massive FHS violation > > => release blocker. who cares ? also /cgroup /selinux /sys /debug ... FHS is frozen since seven years ago.

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