Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images
by Andre Robatino
Adam Williamson wrote:
> it doesn't change the fact that, logically speaking, either the DVD or
> CD images is wrong. Or at least, less right. I can see no sustainable
> argument that they should be different.
The same is true for the directory labels (i386/ for install images and
i686/ for live images). BTW, the live image directory was originally
i386/ in F7, and then changed to i686/ for F8 and later (although the
ISO name was always i686).
14 years, 5 months
Hide the kittens and the babies, a message from your friendly KDE-SIG
by Steven M. Parrish
For those brave souls still running or trying to run rawhide just wanted to
let you know that KDE is broken. As we speak most Qt based apps will just
crash with a message about a missing symbol. To top that we are also
preparing for KDE 4.4 beta 1; so don't expect a quick resolution, in fact
things will get worse before they get better. Look on the bright side, F12 is
rock solid, and with your patience F13 will be even better.
We are shooting to have everything fixed by Monday the 30th, so please bear
with us as we work to bring you another great KDE release.
Steven
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14 years, 5 months
KDE-SIG weekly report (48/2009)
by Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
to this email or add it to the related meeting page.
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= Weekly KDE Summary =
Week: 48/2009
Time: 2009-11-24 14:00 UTC
Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-24
Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2009-11-24/fedora-meeting.2009-11-24-13.59.html
Meeting log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2009-11-24/fedora-meeting.2009-11-24-13.59.log.html
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= Participants =
* BenBoeckel
* JaroslavReznik
* KevinKofler
* LukasTinkl
* RexDieter
* StevenParrish
* ThanNgo
* MaryEllenFoster
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= Agenda =
* Shaman 2 for Fedora? It's plugable package management tool by Dario Freddi,
he asks for comments and what we want for Fedora (if we want to ship it, at
least as optional package - he's working on PackageKit support right now)
* soprano/sesame2 status report [1]
* KDE 4.3.3 : in updates-testing, ready for stable updates ?
* KDE 4.3.75
Builds almost done (kdebindings, kdepim, extragear left)
Issues:
kdelibs -- Konsole menu item patch is obsolete (kde-settings may be able to fix
this)
kdebindings -- Build failure; fails to find its own built libs (??)
kdepim -- one .desktop file of unknown usefulnes getting caught in the
validator
= Summary =
Shaman 2 for Fedora
* jreznik to work on shaman2 packaging
soprano/sesame2 status report
* mefoster will submit package reviews soon and keep [2] updated
KDE 4.3.3 : in updates-testing, ready for stable updates?
* rdieter will queue kde-4.3.3 bits for stable updates
KDE 4.3.75
* mathstuff to merge 4.3.75 into rawhide asap (tue or wed) to be ready for
kde-4.4-beta1
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= Next Meeting =
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-12-01
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= Links =
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-kde/2009-
November/004709.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaryEllenFoster/SopranoSesame
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Office: +420 532 294 275
Mobile: +420 731 455 332
Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/
14 years, 5 months
review swaps
by Adam Goode
I have a couple of imaging-related packages, I'm happy to swap reviews
for them:
jai-imageio-core - Core Java Advanced Imaging Image I/O Tools API
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536944
This is a plugin for Java that enables support for BMP, GIF, PCX, PNM,
"Raw" (not digital camera RAW), TIFF, PCX, WBMP. Does not support JPEG
2000 or JAI stuff, since that is not free software.
mingw32-openjpeg - mingw32 package for openjpeg
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537897
Win32 version of OpenJPEG, a JPEG 2000 library.
Adam
14 years, 5 months
rawhide report: 20091124 changes
by Fedora compose checker
Compose started at Tue Nov 24 08:15:09 UTC 2009
New package erlang-erlsom
Support for XML Schema in Erlang
New package libcue
Cue sheet parser library
New package libunistring
GNU Unicode string library
New package pidgin-sipe
Pidgin plugin for connecting to MS Communications Server
New package polkit-qt
Qt bindings for PolicyKit
New package rubygem-marc
Ruby library for MARC catalog
New package rubygem-minitest
Small and fast replacement for ruby's huge and slow test/unit
Removed package kdebluetooth
Updated Packages:
Cython-0.12-1.fc13
------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com> - 0.12.1-1.rc1
- Update to 0.12.1
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com> - 0.12-1.rc1
- Make that 0.12
Glide3-20050815-10.fc13
-----------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 20050815-10
- Fix BuildRequires for new DGA and VidMode packaging (#538961)
MySQL-python-1.2.3-0.4.c1.fc13
------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Tom Lane <tgl(a)redhat.com> 1.2.3-0.4.c1
- Fix format mismatch in _mysql_ConnectionObject_kill
Resolves: #538234
R-qtl-1.14.2-2.fc13
-------------------
* Sun Nov 22 2009 Mattias Ellert <mattias.ellert(a)fysast.uu.se> - 1.14.2-2
- Modify build for R 2.10 and higher - remove scriptlets
SoQt-1.4.1-14.fc13
------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Ralf Corsépius <corsepiu(a)fedoraproject.org> - 1.4.1-14
- Let soqt-config search in %{_libdir}/Coin2.
Vuurmuur-0.7-7.fc13
-------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Stjepan Gros <stjepan.gros(a)gmail.com> - 0.7-7
- Parallel make enabled for libvuurmuur and disabled for vuurmuur_conf
amarok-2.2.1-3.fc13
-------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 2.2.1-3
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
autofs-5.0.5-10.fc13
--------------------
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Ian Kent <ikent(a)redhat.com> - 1:5.0.5-10
- fix pidof init script usage.
avogadro-1.0.0-3.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.0-3
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
avr-binutils-2.20-2.fc13
------------------------
avr-gcc-4.4.2-2.fc13
--------------------
bitfrost-1.0.4-1.fc13
---------------------
blender-2.49b-3.fc13
--------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.49b-3
- Remove symlink to DejaVu font from package
cluster-glue-1.0-0.12.b79635605337.hg.fc13
------------------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Andrew Beekhof <andrew(a)beekhof.net> - 1.0-0.12.b79635605337.hg
- Correctly select libuuid for building on rhel >=6
* Mon Oct 12 2009 Andrew Beekhof <andrew(a)beekhof.net> - 1.0-0.11.b79635605337.hg
- Add install dependancy on perl-TimeDate for hb_report
- Update to upstream version b79635605337
+ Build: fix defines for pacemaker-pygui compatibility.
+ High: Tools: hb_report: log/events combining
+ High: doc: new README for wti_mpc
+ High: hb_report: add man page hb_report.8
+ High: hb_report: extract important events from the logs
+ High: stonith: external/ibmrsa-telnet: add support for later RSA cards
+ High: stonith: wti_mpc: support for MIB versions 1 and 3
+ Logd: Start/stop priorities are not created by configure
+ Med: sbd: Fix definition of size_t.
+ Med: sbd: Nodename comparison should be case insensitive (bnc#534445)
+ Med: wti_nps: add support for internet power switch model (bnc#539912)
+ Medium (LF 2194): LRM: fix return code on RA exec failure
+ Medium: Tools: hb_report: add -v option (debugging)
+ Medium: Tools: hb_report: options -C and -D are obsoleted
+ ha_logd: Fix a compile error/warning.
+ hb_report: report corosync packages too.
+ sbd: Accept -h (bnc#529574)
+ sbd: really fix the sector_size type.
cups-1.4.2-10.fc13
------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.4.2-9
- Fixed small typos introduced in fix for bug #536741.
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.4.2-10
- Undo last change as it was incorrect.
dhcp-4.1.0p1-14.fc13
--------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Jiri Popelka <jpopelka(a)redhat.com> - 12:4.1.0p1-14
- Honor DEFROUTE=yes|no for all connection types (#530209)
eclipse-callgraph-0.4.0-1.fc13
------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Charley Wang <chwang(a)redhat.com> 0.4.0-1
- Update to version 0.4 of Linux Tools Project and remove tests feature
eclipse-eclox-0.8.0-4.20090616svn.fc13
--------------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako(a)redhat.com> 0.8.0-4.20090616svn
- Fix build.
etoys-4.0.2332-2.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Daniel Drake <dsd(a)laptop.org> - 4.0.2332-2
- don't own /usr/share/sugar/activities and move sugar activity to subpackage
fedora-gnome-theme-13.1-1.fc13
------------------------------
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> 13.0-1
- Drop fedora-icon-theme dep, use Mist directly
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> 13.1-1
- Revert the previous change, since we need the Fedora
icon theme to drop our start-here icon
fedora-usermgmt-0.10-1300.fc13
------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> - 0.10-1300
- require coreutils + util-linux-ng (#540352)
fontpackages-1.35-1.fc13
------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot <nim at fedoraproject dot org>
- 1.35-1
* Sun Nov 22 2009 Nicolas Mailhot <nim at fedoraproject dot org>
- 1.34-1
— compare-repo-font-audit: make output more comprehensive
freenx-server-0.7.3-17.fc13
---------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm(a)ATrpms.net> - 0.7.3-17
- Rebase to launchpad development bzr code.
- Add status to init file.
- Fix persistent session switch.
- Use md5sum (instead of openssl md5) for consistent hashes.
gcin-1.4.5-5.fc13
-----------------
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416(a)gmail.com> - 1.4.5-5
- fix No icon for im-chooser (#468829)
* Mon Nov 16 2009 Chung-Yen Chang <candyz0416(a)gmail.com> - 1.4.5-4
- Rebuild
gnome-applet-sensors-2.2.5-2.fc13
---------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Huzaifa Sidhpurwala <huzaifas(a)redhat.com> - 2.2.5-2
- New upstream release
- Version bump
gnome-applet-timer-2.1.2-6.fc13
-------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Christoph Wickert <cwickert(a)fedoraproject.org> - 2.1.2-6
- Fix assignment when default sound is not found (#531877)
gok-2.28.1-2.fc13
-----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> 2.28.1-2
- Drop htmlview dep, launch firefox
- Update to 2.28.1
hedgewars-0.9.12-1.fc13
-----------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede(a)redhat.com> 0.9.12-1
- New upstream release 0.9.12
- Remove included google-droid font, use the font from the
google-droid-sans-fonts package instead
ibus-1.2.0.20091124-1.fc13
--------------------------
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Peng Huang <shawn.p.huang(a)gmail.com> - 1.2.0.2001124-1
- Update to 1.2.0.20091124
- Update some translations.
- Fix bug 538147 - [abrt] crash detected in firefox-3.5.5-1.fc12
ibus-qt-1.2.0.20091014-2.fc13
-----------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 1.2.0.20091014-2
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
jd-2.5.0-0.4.beta091123.fc13
----------------------------
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka(a)ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.5.0-0.4.beta091123
- 2.5.0 beta 091123
jna-3.2.4-1.fc13
----------------
* Sat Nov 14 2009 Levente Farkas <lfarkas(a)lfarkas.org> - 3.2.4-1
- Rebase on upstream 3.2.4
k3b-1.68.0-3.fc13
-----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 1:1.68.0-3
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
kbibtex-0.2.2-19.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Christian Nolte <ch.nolte at noltec.org> - 0.2.2-19
- Updated to latest upstream version 0.2.2
kdepim-4.3.3-3.fc13
-------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 4.3.3-3
- -fno-var-tracking-assignments for kmail/globalsettings_global.cpp (#538233)
* Fri Nov 13 2009 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> - 4.3.3-2
- rhel cleanup, fix conditional for RHEL
ktorrent-3.3.1-1.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Roland Wolters <wolters.liste(a)gmx.net> - 3.3.1-1
- ktorrent-3.3.1
libgnome-2.28.0-2.fc13
----------------------
* Tue Nov 24 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.28.0-2
- Directly use Mist as default icon theme
libmikmod-3.2.0-9.beta2.fc13
----------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Hans de Goede <hdegoede(a)redhat.com> 3.2.0-9.beta2
- Fix CVE-2007-6720 fix, it causes mods to sound wrong, and even causes
crashes under certain circumstances (#540234), see:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506
libselinux-2.0.89-2.fc13
------------------------
libvorbis-1.2.3-4.fc13
----------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 1.2.3-4
- Fix doc subpackage build (#540634)
lsnipes-0.9.4-6.fc13
--------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Hans Ulrich Niedermann <hun(a)n-dimensional.de> - 0.9.4-6
- disable X11 build to pass the font audit
maven-plugin-tools-2.1-6.fc13
-----------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako(a)redhat.com> 0:2.1-6
- BR maven-plugin-tools.
maven2-plugin-shade-1.0-7.fc13
------------------------------
mmapper-2.0.4-3.final2.fc13
---------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Kalev Lember <kalev(a)smartlink.ee> - 2.0.4-3.final2
- Updated source URL.
mock-1.0.0-1.fc13
-----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Clark Williams <williams(a)redhat.com>- 1.0.0-1
- modified pty devpts mount code to actually work (BZ# 510183)
- deleted F9 configs
- version bump to 1.0.0
mysql-5.1.41-1.fc13
-------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Tom Lane <tgl(a)redhat.com> 5.1.41-1
- Update to MySQL 5.1.41, for various fixes described at
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/news-5-1-41.html
- Don't set old_passwords=1; we aren't being bug-compatible with 3.23 anymore
Resolves: #540735
ogre-1.6.4-4.fc13
-----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> - 1.6.4-4
- Allow CEGIUOgreRenderer to find needed libraries
openldap-2.4.19-3.fc13
----------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Jan Zeleny <jzeleny(a)redhat.com> - 2.4.19-3
- minor corrections in init script
openoffice.org-3.2.0-5.2.fc13
-----------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Caolán McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> - 1:3.2.0-5.2
- Resolves: rhbz#540379/ooo#107131 impress tabledrag crash
- Resolves: rhbz#540231 add openoffice.org-3.2.0.ooo107137.canvas.fixcolorspace.patch
perl-Params-Validate-0.92-1.fc13
--------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Ralf Corsépius <corsepiu(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.92-1
- Upstream update.
- Switch to Build.PL.
- Disable IS_MAINTAINER test.
planner-0.14.4-5.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Caolán McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> - 0.14.4-5
- Resolves: rhbz#540242 fix gtk_recent_manager_add_full usage
plexus-cdc-1.0-0.5.a10.1.3.fc13
-------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako(a)redhat.com> 0:1.0-0.5.a10.1.2
- Fix build with qdox 1.9.
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako(a)redhat.com> 0:1.0-0.5.a10.1.3
- BR maven-doxia-sitetools.
plexus-mail-sender-1.0-0.a2.13.fc13
-----------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako(a)redhat.com> 0:1.0-0.a2.13
- BR maven-doxia-sitetools.
poppler-0.12.2-1.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.12.2-1
- poppler-0.12.2
poppler-data-0.3.1-1.fc13
-------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.1-1
- poppler-data-0.3.1
postgresql-jdbc-8.4.701-2.fc13
------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Tom Lane <tgl(a)redhat.com> 8.4.701-2
- Add a .pom file to ease use by maven-based packages (courtesy Deepak Bhole)
Resolves: #538487
qscintilla-2.4-8.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 2.4-8
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
redhat-rpm-config-9.0.3-19.fc13
-------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Orion Poplawski <orion(a)cora.nwra.com> - 9.0.3-19
- Change configure macro to use _configure to allow override (bug #489942)
revisor-2.1.10-3.fc13
---------------------
scidavis-0.2.3-12.fc13
----------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.3-12
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
sip-4.9.3-1.fc13
----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 4.9.3-1
- sip-4.9.3
smartmontools-5.38-24.20091119svn.fc13
--------------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink(a)redhat.com> - 1:5.38-24.20091119svn
- move powermode option from sysconfig to smartd.conf (#539760)
sox-14.3.0-1.fc13
-----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Jiri Moskovcak <jmoskovc(a)redhat.com> - 14.3.0-1
- 14.3.0
squid-3.1.0.15-2.fc13
---------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Jiri Skala <jskala(a)redhat.com> 7:3.1.0.14-2
- fixed #532930 Syntactic error in /etc/init.d/squid
- fixed #528453 cannot initialize cache_dir with user specified config file
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik(a)henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.1.0.15-2
- Update to 3.1.0.15 with a number of bugfixes and a workaround for
ICEcast/SHOUTcast streams.
supertuxkart-0.6.2-2.fc13
-------------------------
* Thu Nov 19 2009 Jon Ciesla <limb(a)jcomserv.net> - 0.6.2-2
- Add in addon pack.
- Split data to noarch subpackage.
system-config-printer-1.1.13-11.fc13
------------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Jiri Popelka <jpopelka(a)redhat.com> 1.1.13-11
- Prevent traceback when PackageKit is not installed (bug #540230).
telepathy-mission-control-5.2.6-1.fc13
--------------------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Brian Pepple <bpepple(a)fedoraproject.org> - 1:5.2.6-1
- Update to 5.2.6.
util-linux-ng-2.17-0.3.fc13
---------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Karel Zak <kzak(a)redhat.com> 2.17-0.3
- upgrade to 2.17-rc1
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng/v2.17/v2.17-rc1-ChangeLog
vdr-1.6.0-29.fc13
-----------------
* Sun Nov 22 2009 Ville-Pekka Vainio <vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi> - 1.6.0-29
- Set LIRC_DEVICE to /var/run/lirc/lircd for lirc 0.8.6 and add patch to
change the sky plugin and vdr.1 man page accordingly (#538604).
* Wed Oct 28 2009 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)iki.fi> - 1.6.0-28
- Update URLs to point to tvdr.de.
vym-1.12.5-2.fc13
-----------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 1.12.5-2
- rebuild (for qt-4.6.0-rc1, f13+)
xulrunner-1.9.2.1-0.4.b3.fc13
-----------------------------
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Martin Stransky <stransky(a)redhat.com> 1.9.2.1-0.4.b3
- added -unstable.pc files for compatibility with 1.9.1
Summary:
Added Packages: 7
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 71
14 years, 5 months
take me off list
by Mark Jurack
I am no longer using fedora. Please take me off mailing list. Thank You.
14 years, 5 months
Who handles lidclose at login screen?
by Orion Poplawski
What is responsible for suspending a laptop when the lid is closed and
it is at the login screen? Running kdm and the machine does not suspend.
--
Orion Poplawski
Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222
NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702
3380 Mitchell Lane orion(a)cora.nwra.com
Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com
14 years, 5 months
No Frozen Rawhide Meeting Summary
by Jesse Keating
Last week we had a Fedora Talk meeting regarding the No Frozen Rawhide
proposal. This meeting was to quickly get everybody back up to speed on
the proposal, walk through a typical release cycle, and identify the
parts of the proposal that still need work. We then outlined what the
blocking items were, and not-so-blocking with available workarounds, and
who would be responsible for getting the blockers done and the schedule
for completion.
There was a gobby session open at the time too, and notes were taken
from the meeting. They can be found at the bottom of this message.
The high level plan is as follows:
- Continue to produce rawhide as a repo of packages without install
images.
- At feature freeze, branch CVS for F-13
- devel/ now builds for F-14, reflect that in fedora-release and koji
- F-13 builds are published to pub/fedora/linux/releases/13/Everything/
nightly
- Potential F-13 builds are published to
pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/13/ either nightly or as part of
standard updates pushes.
- Bodhi will be used for managing builds from F-13. Push to testing
goes to the updates-testing location. Push to stable goes to the
Everything/ path.
- Install images created in the Everything/ path.
- Packages in the critical path will require positive karma from releng
or qa before allowed to go stable. Packages outside the critical path
will be managed just as updates are now.
- At F13 Release Candidate stage, pushes to "stable" will go to
pub/fedora/linux/updates/13/ instead of the Everything/ path. Release
blocking fixes will be pulled into Everything/
There are lots of other details to the above, but that's a good
overview. There are some major obstacles to getting this done, the two
biggest being bodhi and the compose infrastructure.
Bodhi is currently being rewritten, partly to enable us to add the
functionality we need. I have an action item to sync up with Luke
Macken to make sure he is aware of our needs and will be able to
implement them in time for F13 Feature Freeze. If not, we have a
fallback to using trac for tag requests, but very non-optimal.
The compose infrastructure needs some improvement to be able to handle
making multiple trees each day, as well as additional updates repos.
Bill Nottingham is taking the lead on this work and will be
investigating various ways to speed up our processes. This is the one
true blocker to this effort, if we simply do not have the resources to
compose a never ending rawhide plus a pending release, we will have to
postpone these changes until such resources are obtained.
We will continue to talk about no frozen rawhide and get updates from
the various tasks being worked on in our weekly release engineering
meeting (Mondays at 1800 UTC), and I suspect we'll be talking about it
quite a lot at FUDCon in Toronto.
Please feel free to contact me on IRC, or post to fedora-devel-list if
you have any questions regarding this proposal and how Fedora
development will operate in the future.
Below you'll find the gobby notes from our meeting:
Attendees: John Poelstra, Bill Nottingham, Jesse Keating, Dennis
Gilmore, James Laska, Warren Togami, Steven M. Parrish, <add yourself>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_Frozen_Rawhide_Proposal (aka NFR :)
Right now:
- rawhide is pulling from F-13
- rawhide does not have images
At some point:
- rawhide will pull from F-14
- we will branch everything in CVS, and start a second F-13 tree
- we create the F-13 version in bugzilla (and any other associated
things in our normal process)
- we do 'something' in fedora-release and mirrormanager to put people on
the right repos
-- where does this tree go. releases/13/Everything? +1+1
-- testing updates to go updates/testing/13/
--- make sure this path is OK with mirrors
Possible Alternatives
- at feature freeze? +1+1+1+1
- at beta freeze?
How it works for developers, after branch:
- tag
- build
- 'make update'
Tool changes/scope:
* koji/release engineering
** need autosigning
*** Assignee: Jesse
* releng scripts
** need to be able to build a second nightly tree
*** Assignee: Jesse, Bill
* mash
** needs to be able to build trees faster. HOW?
*** Split packages into subdirs (Seth's idea)
*** Use multiple compose boxes
*** (kill multilib?)
*** (kill deltas?) (updates only?)
*** Assignee: Bill, Jesse
* Bodhi
** need to have 'pre-release' updates that go into an updates-testing,
have a process on tagging them
** critical path requires releng/QE signoff; other packages can be
promoted by maintainer, or by karma
** how does this work with buildroot overrides? Badly.
*** can we have bodhi control buildroot overrides
** Needs to have this behavior 'switch' to pushing updates to the normal
areas
*** at RC stage?
*** at gold stage?
** Need to confirm availability of Luke Macken to make required changes
otherwise this section can't happen (after we scope out all the changes
that need to happen here)
*** Assignee: Luke
* Automated testing (AutoQA)
** Watcher/hook support for monitoring for test events
(post-bodhi-update)
** https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/autoqa%20depcheck
** Defining package-level tests needed for bodhi acceptance (deps,
conflicts etc...)?
** How will tests publish results into bodhi? (autoqa web interface,
links from bodhi and koji? to autoqa)
** Not a requirement for go forward with NFR, but would make a lot of
other things better
* Documentation
** document, document, document. Warn users as to what they need to do;
inform them if they're not doing it.
** This *will* cause confusion for developers at first.
** need to be very very loud as we make these changes
*** Create some scripts to discover people who don't realize the issues
NEXT STEPS
1) put gobby results into wiki and clarify plan of action on proposal
page (Jesse)
2) Pull in Luke to brief on plans and confirm timeline (Jesse)
3) Work the mash issues (Bill)
4) Next meetings will take place at Monday Release Engineering meetings
FALLBACK PLAN:
*Branch at Feature freeze
* freeze using f13-alpha tag
* use trac to manage tag requests
* freeze using f13-beta tag
** rinse and repeat till release is done
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
14 years, 5 months