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Off Topic: where I can see how I translate old gdm conf files to new ones?
by casimiro barreto 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Hello, After upgrading to Fedora Rel 9 I've had trouble to drop the -nolisten in the Xserver (old defaults.conf is not working anymore) and I need to set the command=/usr/bin/X ... Gdm was shipped without proper documentation (no man pages, nothing for the missing gdmsetup and other programs... Best regards and sorry for the inconvenience... Casimiro Barreto

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Help! XFCE event sounds in Rawhide -- make it stop!
by Matthew Miller 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

My rawhide system has always had some sound oddities ever since the pulseaudio switch -- it really needs a reinstall. But in the last couple of days, something has been driving me crazy: there are suddenly loud, obnoxious sound effects when I open or close windows. There doesn't seem to be an XFCE control panel that has anything to do with this, and changing the gnome one has no effect. Help! Help! -- Matthew Miller mattdm(a)mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>

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NetworkManager-pptp
by Mat Booth 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

I was pleased to see this package hanging out in Koji today. Thanks Dan for packaging it, I've been looking forward to seeing this in Fedora. I've installed the x86_64 package from Koji to try it out on my F9 machine. Am I being too eager? :-) Anyway, I've configured up my VPN connection but I can't get it to work. Whatever I try, I always get the following: Aug 30 16:05:40 sd NetworkManager: <info> Starting VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp'... Aug 30 16:05:40 sd NetworkManager: <info> VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' started (org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp), PID 6587 Aug 30 16:05:40 sd NetworkManager: <WARN> vpn_service_watch_cb(): VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' exited with error: 1 Aug 30 16:05:45 sd NetworkManager: <info> VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' did not start in time, cancelling connections Currently, I connect to the VPN with this script (login details censored, obviously): http://www.matbooth.co.uk/lwd/start-vpn Which works reasonably well. How can I make NetworkManager-pptp connect using the settings I use in that script? What's the best way to go about debugging this? Regards, Mat -- Mat Booth www.matbooth.co.uk

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Evolution junk failures
by Mike Chambers 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

On an F9 system upgraded to Rawhide, it seems evolution shows (not sure if all the time, or at certain times/conditions) a "Check junk mail" failed message when emails arrive. And this worked just fine on F9, using bogofilter as my spam program. Also, (not sure this is evo though), as I am typing this, I can see the whole email (body and signature) flashing in 2-3 different places on my screen in the body of the email. Below is a URL with a screenshot of it.... http://www.miketc.net/Screenshot.png Any ideas? -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. mikec302(a)fedoraproject.org

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Interested in Fedora on Smaller Machines?
by Jeremy Katz 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Smaller form-factor machines such as the Asus eeePC have gotten a fair bit of the tech press spotlight of late. Have you bought one with the idea of running Fedora on it? Or have you thought about doing so? I'm trying to gauge the interest in starting a SIG with the purpose of making distribution changes to make running on these devices more streamlined and have more work "out of the box". This will involve both the necessary work to just get the hardware working well with Fedora of today as well as possibly a spin that is explicitly targeted at some of the constraints of the hardware down the line[1]. If enough people are interested, I'd like to find a time later this week or next week to have an initial meeting to kind of figure out what bounds we want to tackle things in for the first pass. Hardware that I think definitely falls into the scope would be: netbooks, UMPCs, MIDs, maybe the XO? I've started up a page on the wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/Netbooks) that people can edit and then we can go from there Jeremy

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Help wanted with Samba4 and OpenChange
by Andrew Bartlett 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

I've recently been working on packaging Heimdal, Samba4 and OpenChange for Fedora. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452212 (heimdal) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453083 (Samba4) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453395 (libmapi - OpenChange) This will enable much better access to Microsoft Exchange servers from clients such as kdepim, and hopefully Evolution (pending a re-licensing). I've got a feature page for this here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenChange Now, the reason I'm posting here is that I would rather not do this alone, and would love some co-maintainers of the packagers above, or at least some help with the review and sponsorship, or advise on the best way forward. Any assistance gratefully received, Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Red Hat Inc.

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Re: rpms/git/devel .cvsignore, 1.63, 1.64 git.spec, 1.70, 1.71 sources, 1.63, 1.64
by Todd Zullinger 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

James Bowes wrote: > Log Message: > git 1.6.0.1 [...] > Index: git.spec > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/git/devel/git.spec,v > retrieving revision 1.70 > retrieving revision 1.71 > diff -u -r1.70 -r1.71 > --- git.spec 24 Jul 2008 14:03:40 -0000 1.70 > +++ git.spec 28 Aug 2008 12:16:58 -0000 1.71 > @@ -132,6 +132,7 @@ > %build > make %{_smp_mflags} CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS" \ > ETC_GITCONFIG=/etc/gitconfig \ > + gitexecdir=%{_bindir} \ > prefix=%{_prefix} all %{!?_without_docs: doc} > make -C contrib/emacs > > @@ -140,6 +141,7 @@ > make %{_smp_mflags} CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS" DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT \ > prefix=%{_prefix} mandir=%{_mandir} \ > ETC_GITCONFIG=/etc/gitconfig \ > + gitexecdir=%{_bindir} \ > INSTALLDIRS=vendor install %{!?_without_docs: install-doc} > make -C contrib/emacs install \ > emacsdir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_datadir}/emacs/site-lisp I almost hate to ask, but why are we differing from upstream here by setting gitexecdir=%{_bindir}? Moving the git-* commands out of the path has been on the agenda for git-1.6.0 for a long time. If distros like Fedora and others just set gitexecdir like this we've effectively negated upstream's intent to present less binaries in the users path. For those folks that want to continue using the git-* form, the simple solution is to add $(git --exec-path) to PATH. If we want to not break anyone's scripts by default in the update to git-1.6.0, we could add that to the PATH in the package rather than keep all the git binaries in %{_bindir}. At least that way, those who do not want or need all the extra commands there could just remove it from their PATH. (Personally, I'd prefer to not even do that and install git as closely to upstream as possible.) -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never argue with an idiot. First, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. -- Ben Adams

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FESCo Meeting Summary for 2008-08-13
by Brian Pepple 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

=== Members Present === * Brian Pepple (bpepple) * Kevin Fenzi (nirik) * Josh Boyer (jwb) * Jon Stanley (jds2001) * Dennis Gilmore (dgilmore) * Karsten Hopp (kick_) * Jarod Wilson (j-rod) === Members Absent === * Bill Nottingham (notting) * David Woodhouse (dwmw2) == Summary == === Upstart Status Update === * Casey Dahlin (sadmac2) and Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) gave an update on the status of Upstart for F10. It was planned that with Upstart 0.5, Fedora would begin converting large parts of the system to the "upstart way of doing things". Keybuk pointed out that several very core use cases, pertaining to the mounting of file systems, instance jobs, etc, are poorly served by current Upstart. So, until these issues are resolved upstream, we will hold off on converting to the "upstart way of doing things". === Revert curl change made for flash === * After a contentious discussion of whether to use an empty shared library linked to libcurl.so.4 (proposal #1), or to make a compat sub-package for libcurl.so.3 (proposal #2), FESCo approved proposal #1. * Proposal #1: jds2001, Kick_, nirik, bpepple * Proposal #2: jwb, dgilmore * Abstain: j-rod === Features === * FESCo approved the following feature for F10: * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApplianceTools * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApplicationInstaller * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Eclipse34 * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirstAidKit * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GNOME2_24 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Sugar * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PythonNSS * FESCo held off on approving the 30 Second Startup(1) feature, since they had some questions regarding it. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/30SecondStartup IRC log can be found at: http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2008-08-13.html Later, /B -- Brian Pepple <bpepple(a)fedoraproject.org> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E

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Packaging Cherokee
by Debarshi Ray 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

I am packaging Cherokee [1] for Fedora. If someone else is also interested please let me know. Happy hacking, Debarshi [1] http://www.cherokee-project.com/

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Fedora 10 Beta Freeze coming soon
by Jesse Keating 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

The Fedora 10 Beta freeze is scheduled for the 19th of Aug, one week and one day away. I know it hasn't been very long since the Alpha release, but that's how we roll here in the land of 6 month release cycles. Beta freeze also marks the Feature freeze, so it is very important that you get your features into working, testable shape by then, or be prepared to try your feature again for Fedora 11. We'd like to treat rawhide as a slushy freeze at this point, we'll be doing full composes against rawhide to test for various things and be ahead of the curve come actual freeze time, so we'd like you to not land any really dangerous changes without extensive testing first, and notification to the Fedora lists about your scary change. If we all work together we can get through the beta freeze period quickly and be on to the bugfixing mode after beta releases. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule is the current schedule, although releng/Fesco/Board has the ability to change the schedule as needed. This week's meetings of the various boards, sigs, groups, etc.. should focus on Beta readiness. It would be good to take a moment to see what state your area of interest is in, and how likely it would be that said area of interest will be in a "testable" shape by the Beta freeze. If more (reasonable) time is needed, now is the time to let the project know so that we can effectively manage the remainder of our release schedule. Thanks for all your hard work in making Fedora 10 great! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce

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