Re: New artwork!
by Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 03:24:56PM -0500, sean wrote:
> Fedora Linux doesn't sound so bad and I think the concern that this will
> cause future problems is actually overblown. In fact it will probably
> help in the future differenciate which port someone is using. On top of
> which, the people who eventually port it to another OS will probably want
> to highlight their achievment anyway by calling it Fedora Solaris
> or Fedora Windows etc... Lets not try to be so farsightedly
> accomodating that we can't call it a Linux system today.
Linux is only one component of the whole system, so it is as absurd to
call it "Fedora Linux" as it would be to call it "Fedora Xorg" or
"Fedora GNOME". A very large percentage of software in Fedora is
GPL-licensed, so maybe "Fedora GNU" would be appropriate...
/me prepares to put on asbestos suit
18 years, 3 months
Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 2 ISO's
by Allyn, Mark A
Hello:
The Fedora Weekly News announced the release of Announcing Fedora
Core 5 Test 2.
However, when I go to the mirrors, I cannot seem to find any ISO's
for Fedora Core 5 Test 2. All I see is what appears to be the file
structure of the release.
Where do I find the ISO files for the object and source CD's?
Thank you
Mark Allyn
18 years, 3 months
X11 performance, rawhide vs. FC4 (including hard numbers)
by Ralf Ertzinger
Hi.
For quite some time I was under the impression that X got slower and slower
as rawhide moved on. But since impressions are just that, I could not prove this
in a way that would be satisfying to the developers (and me). Nonetheless,
I filed a bug about this a long time ago. As you can see from the bug, my main
concert at the time (and in this mail, too) is Xv performance, crucial for any
kind of video playback.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131010
I recently found the time to sit down and produce hard numbers for this. I did
not find a tool that would allow me to measure the performance that can be
gotten out of the Xv system (xperf is a little backwards in that regard), so
I wrote my own.
Let's get down to the testing area.
The machine I used is a Duron 1200Mhz, 640MB RAM, GeForce2MX graphics card
using the stock nv driver.
The tested operating systems are FC4 (fully updated) and a reasonably recent
rawhide tree. Both versions shared one xorg.conf. Exact version numbers are
in the test results.
My test program uses the Xv extension to transfer a 512x512 pixel image
into a 512x512 pixel sized window, using shared memory transfers (both
the image and the window sizes are configurable, but these are the default
values). This is repeated often enough to be able to calculate the time
used for a single transfer. All test were done using the following procedure:
1) Boot the OS in single user mode
2) Become root ("su -")
3) Compile the xvperf program (link to source below, compiled with
"CFLAGS=$(rpm --eval %optflags) make")
4) start xfs
5) Create a simple X environment ("echo xterm -geometry 80x25 > .Xclients")
6) start X11 (startx)
This creates a very simple X environment without a window manager.
7) run "maketest.sh <path to xvperf binary> (link below)
maketest.sh gets some system information (CPU, mtrr, iomem, X11 config
and log files) and then runs xvperf. All information is saved into
separate files.
The basic result of all the above is that Xv performance under current
RH is less than a third of that in FC4. Why that is I do not know.
Before I file another bug on this I'd like to ask people who are able
and willing to perform the same testing (RH and FC4 (or even FC3)) on
the same hardware to compare their perfomance values and notify me
whether they see the same as I do or not.
Attached to this mail are the log files produced by maketest.sh for
FC4 and RH.
The link to get the source for xvperf and for maketest.sh is
http://www.skytale.net/files/xvperf/
Some words of warning:
a) this is my first program dealing with X11 directly. I may be measuring
shit.
b) The program has just been tested on a GeForce2MX (x86) and an ATI
Rage128 (ppc). It may have bugs on other hardware (for all I know it
probably has bugs on the hardware it was tested on)
c) xvperf will try to use a YUY2 transfer. Almost all cards ought to
have such a transfer mode.
d) If you have a fast machine you may have to increase the number "2000"
in the last line of maketest.sh to accomodate (xvperf will complain
in xvperf.out)
Thanks for your time.
--
R!
18 years, 3 months
CUPS lprm - long term problem
by Bob Billing
I've got machines here running FC1, FC3 and FC4. The CUPS lprm command
which should accept "-" as an argument to kill all jobs, simply doesn't
work. If I type
lprm -
when logged in as unclebob it replies
Password for unclebob on localhost?
The user password, the root password and CTRL/C all get the same prompt,
no print jobs ever get killed. Now this seems to have been exactly the
same since FC1. It seems to me that either
1) The command does work, subject to some gotcha that has to be avoided,
in which case it should be on the man page.
2) The command doesn't work and needs fixing.
Can we sort out which is the case and get something done about it before
FC5 is released?
--
Robert Billing, Tanglewood,
01344-772849 64, Pinehill Road,
rbilling(a)tnglwood.demon.co.uk Crowthorne,
http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ Berks, RG45 7JR
18 years, 3 months
Apache mod_mono?
by Matthias Saou
Hi,
It seems like an incredible coincidence, but someone I know who works with
Windows/IIS just told me that he wanted to rewrite an old website he has
in ASP.NET... just when mono went into Fedora Core!
So I was looking around, and came across the mono ASP.NET page :
http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET
Seems like it's already pretty mature, so I'd really like to give a shot at
convincing him of using Fedora/Apache/Mono. Are there any plans on getting
mod_mono into Core? If not, is anyone thinking about getting it into
Extras? If still not, I think I might give it a shot ;-)
Matthias
--
Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/
Fedora Core release 4 (Stentz) - Linux kernel 2.6.14-1.1656_FC4
Load : 0.43 0.42 0.54
18 years, 3 months
New GDM Login Theme
by Ray Strode
Hi guys,
A new GDM login theme was put into rawhide a few days ago. The design
is by Diana Fong and the implementation is by Máirín Duffy and me.
For most people it should be on by default, but for those of you who
updated gdm from 2.8.0.4 to 2.13.0.4 before release 2.13.0.4-5 at any
point, you won't get it enabled by default because of a bug in settings
migration (bug 177443). If you want to use the new theme, you can
enable it by running /usr/sbin/gdmsetup and selecting the "Fedora
Bubbles" theme. Alternatively, you can go back to complete stock
defaults by running
sh -c "echo > /usr/share/gdm/config/gdm.conf-custom"
as root.
--Ray Strode
18 years, 3 months
rawhide report: 20060123 changes
by Build System
Updated Packages:
aqbanking-1.8.1beta-2
---------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 1.8.1beta-2
- add an obsolete (#178554)
beagle-0.2.0-1
--------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.2.0-1
- update to 0.2.0
desktop-file-utils-0.10-4
-------------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> - 0.10-4
- don't use uninitialized memory (bug 178591)
dhcp-11:3.0.3-21
----------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> - 11:3.0.3-21
- Fix dhclient-script to use /bin/dbus-send now that all dbus related
binaries are in /bin rather than /usr/bin
dmraid-1.0.0.rc9-FC5_5
----------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> 1.0.0.rc9-FC5_5
- Add selinux build deps
- Don't set owner during make install
* Fri Dec 09 2005 Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> 1.0.0.rc9-FC5_4.1
- rebuilt
* Sat Dec 03 2005 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> 1.0.0.rc9-FC5_4
- rebuild for device-mapper-1.02.02-2
evolution-sharp-0.10.2-4
------------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> 0.10.2-4
- Build on s390x
gmime-2.1.19-1
--------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 2.1.19-1
- Update to 2.1.19 (needed by beagle 0.2.0)
gnome-media-2.13.5-2
--------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> - 2.13.5-2
- Disable the help button in gnome-audio-profiles-properties since
it isn't yet hooked up to anything.
gnome-screensaver-2.13.5-4
--------------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> - 2.13.5-4
- throttle cpu usage in floaters screensaver to allow things
like background compiles to be faster (bug 178496).
gnome-utils-1:2.13.5-3
----------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> 2.13.5-3
- Update to gcalctools 5.7.26
- fix subtract operator
gsf-sharp-0.6-5
---------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> 0.6-5
- Build on s390x
kernel-2.6.15-1.1869_FC5
------------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com>
- Add missing .kernelrelease to kernel-devel (#178491)
- Make serial /dev nodes get created for pci modems again.
- Re-add Intel AGP for 586 kernels.
libusb-0.1.11-1
---------------
* Fri Jan 20 2006 Jindrich Novy <jnovy(a)redhat.com> 0.1.11-1
- 0.1.11
- require pkgconfig, package libusb.pc
- fix printf format in linux.c so that libusb can be built with -Werror (default)
sane-backends-1.0.17-2
----------------------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 1.0.17-2
- disable hotplug dep. More later pending (#177650)
scim-anthy-0.8.0-2.fc5
----------------------
* Mon Jan 23 2006 Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> - 0.8.0-2
- scim-anthy-wide-latin.diff: applied to fix a problem that the input character
appears twice with the full size alphanumeric mode.
udev-078-5
----------
* Sun Jan 22 2006 Kristian Høgsberg <krh(a)redhat.com> 078-5
- Drop udev dependency (#178621).
xscreensaver-1:4.23-1
---------------------
* Fri Jan 13 2006 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> 1:4.23-1
- update to 4.23
- add a BuildRequires on imake (spotted by Mamoru Tasaka)
- add a lot of patches and fixes from Mamoru Tasaka
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp
GFS-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp
cman-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp
dlm-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5smp
gnbd-kernel-smp - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.i686 requires kernel-smp = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.i386 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0
rhythmbox - 0.9.2-8.i386 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0
Broken deps for ia64
----------------------------------------------------------
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.ia64 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
rgmanager - 1.9.31-3.ia64 requires ccs
rhythmbox - 0.9.2-8.ia64 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
ccs-devel - 1.0.2-3.1.ppc requires ccs = 0:1.0.2-3.1
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.ppc requires libtotem-plparser.so.0
gulm - 1.0.4-2.FC5.1.ppc requires ccs
rhythmbox - 0.9.2-8.ppc requires libtotem-plparser.so.0
Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
cman - 1.0.3-5.FC5.ppc64 requires cman-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11
dlm - 1.0.0-7.FC5.ppc64 requires dlm-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11
emacs - 21.4-5.ppc64 requires fonts-xorg-75dpi
gnbd - 1.0.1-2.ppc64 requires gnbd-kernel-modules >= 0:2.6.11
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.ppc64 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
rhythmbox - 0.9.2-8.ppc64 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
Broken deps for s390
----------------------------------------------------------
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.s390 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0
systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11
systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390 requires kernel-devel
Broken deps for s390x
----------------------------------------------------------
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.s390x requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjava-2.8.so()(64bit)
libvte-java - 0.11.11-7.s390x requires libgtkjni-2.8.so()(64bit)
systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390x requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11
systemtap - 0.5.3-2.s390x requires kernel-devel
Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
GFS-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.9.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
cman-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.10.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
dlm-kernel - 2.6.14.1-20051219.162641.FC5.8.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires kernel = 0:2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnbd-kernel - 2.6.14.0-20051108.134753.FC5.14.x86_64 requires /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1826.2.10_FC5
gnome-python2-totem - 2.12.1-9.x86_64 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
rhythmbox - 0.9.2-8.x86_64 requires libtotem-plparser.so.0()(64bit)
18 years, 3 months
Mono apps: Banshee and iFolder
by Igor Jagec
Since Mono is included in the upcoming FC5, do you have any plans to
include more Mono apps at least in Extras? Such as Banshee music player
or iFolder for instance?
Thanks.
--
Igor Jagec
18 years, 3 months