devel July 2003

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Re: Inclusion of cyrus-imapd and mimedefang (plus webmail)
by Angles Puglisi 24 Jul '03

24 Jul '03

If you'll give it consideration I could rip AngleMail out of phpGroupWare into a standalone webmail. (I'd do it for the fame of the few people who know me ...) www.anglemail.org there is a demo of an older version at: https://demo.axisgroupware.org:4430/login.php check out the email part of the demo. Paul Iadonisi (pri.rhl1(a)iadonisi.to) wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 03:35:41PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >[snip] > >> We're actually considering for this upcoming release: >> >> - adding in cyrus-imap >> - taking out uw-imap >> >> Opinions? > > My vote is definite thumbs up for cyrus-imap. Simon Matter's rpms have >also been well put together (and have only been getting better) and would >probably only require minor tweaks to fit into Red Hat Linux nicely. > On a sort of related note, I'd like to see something better than >squirrelmail (or an additional choice) for webmail. I know that comment >might generate some flames, but my problem with it is that it claims to be >modular, but I have a hard time calling something modular when most of >the additional modules I've seen require modification of some other source >files. Maybe it's bad module design, but I suspect that's not the case. >I'd rather see something that treats modules the way, for example, drupal >does (http://www.drupal.org/) Drop the right .module file in modules >directory and add whatever other files you need to, and the function is >added. No mucking around with core source files. > I tried out squirrelmail mostly because I didn't want to learn sieve >(I can be lazy at times :-)) and saw that it had a sieve module. But then >I got frustrated because I could just apply the errata for squirrelmail and >expect everything to work. Sieve is but *one* of the reasons I like >cyrus-imapd. It would be nice to have a webmail program (that handled >sieve or had extensions for it) that was a little easier to deal with >from admin point of view. > Alternatives? Not sure. Horde's IMP, possibly, but I don't know how >well it meets my above criteria, and I know it's a whole suite of web apps, >so it would have to be looked a more closely. Don't want TOO much cruft. > >-- >-Paul Iadonisi > Senior System Administrator > Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist > Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. > GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets > > >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhl-devel-list -- That's "angle" as in geometry.

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plaintext imap authentication
by Chris Ricker 24 Jul '03

24 Jul '03

Prior to this first beta, uw-imap was configured in alphas / rawhide with plaintext authentication disabled when connecting over unsecured connections (ie, pop / imap, but not pops / imaps). In beta1, uw-imap and dovecot both accept plaintext auth via at least imap (didn't try pop). Was it decided that the world's not ready to give up plaintext yet after all? Or just an accidental reversion? later, chris

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PDA/Mobile Phone connectivity with MultiSync
by Ole Aamot 24 Jul '03

24 Jul '03

Could you add PDA/Mobile Phone connectivity in the next release? I deeply recommend the MultiSync GNOME2 application for the job, as it is easy-to-use, integrates with Evolution, supports SyncML and IrMC, etc. It is advertised to work with the following PDAs * Compaq iPAQ 31XX * Compaq iPAQ 36XX * Compaq iPAQ 37XX * Compaq iPAQ 38XX * Compaq iPAQ 39XX * Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 * Sharp Zaurus SL-5000D * Sharp Zaurus SL-5600 * Windows CE / Pocket PC and these mobile phones: * Sony Ericsson R320 (IrMC) * Sony Ericsson T39 (IrMC) * Sony Ericsson T68i (IrMC) * Siemens S45i (IrMC) * Siemens S55 (IrMC) http://multisync.sourceforge.net/ MultiSync is a free modular program to synchronize calendars, addressbooks and other PIM data between programs on your computer and other computers, mobile devices, PDAs or cell phones. Currently MultiSync has plugins for * Ximian Evolution synchronization, supporting calendar, ToDos and contacts. * IrMC Mobile Client synchronization (supported by e.g. SonyEricsson T39/T68i, Siemens S45i/S55 phones etc.) via Bluetooth or IR on Linux, or cable connection. * Windows CE / Pocket PC synchronization. This plugin is part of the SynCE project, and can be downloaded there. * Remote connection of two MultiSync programs via an encrypted connection over the net. Perfect to synchronize your laptop and stationary computer, or why not your home and work calendars? * Backup of your PIM data. -- Ole Aamot, Oslo, Norway

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strange bug in ipv6 initscripts, ideas?
by Pekka Savola 24 Jul '03

24 Jul '03

Hi, When looking at a bug report in IPv6 initscripts: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=86210 I came across a very strange bug. When a command is run from interactively, it works fine. When it's run via hotplug, it bugs under a very specific scenario: sometimes when we're redirecting stderr to stdin. The chain of commands is: /sbin/ifup eth1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ipv6 eth1 ipv6_add_addr_on_device eth1 fec0::2/64 [in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions-ipv6] ipv6_exec_ifconfig eth1 inet6 add fec0::2/64 LC_ALL=C /sbin/ifconfig eth1 inet6 add fec0::2/64 2>&1 The last fails, for some unknown reason with error code 1 and no output when run non-interactively; the code fragment in full is: ---8<--- ##### Wrapper for used binaries ## ifconfig # $*: <arguments...> # return code: result of execution ipv6_exec_ifconfig() { local options=$* LC_ALL=C /sbin/ifconfig $options 2>&1 return $? } ---8<--- One can work around the issue by removing "2>&1" (again, for whatever reason?!?). However, we really shouldn't change that code in the source, because some functions depend on that to eliminate error messages. I did a prototype change, and modified the relevant ipv6_add_addr_on_device:ipv6_exec_ifconfig function to use ipv6_exec_ip; a similar problem appeared (so, it doesn't seem to be specific to the application executed). Any ideas/thoughts? This seems so weird I'd like some pointers what could be wrong here.. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings

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More Packaging Guidelines...
by Warren Togami 24 Jul '03

24 Jul '03

http://www.fedora.us/wiki/QAChecklist Some highlights from Fedora's packaging guidelines... for now the easier points. I'm avoiding the Epoch discussion for now since I am short on time. 1. Are the pre- and post(un)install scripts correct? ================================================= If it installs files named **.so.* into %{_libdir}, is there a %post -p /sbin/ldconfig and %postun -p /sbin/ldconfig? If it has info files, is there a %post script that installs them, and a %postun one which removes them (and only on erase, not upgrade)? 2. Finding Missing BuildRequires ================================ http://www.fedora.us/wiki/HOWTOFindMissingBuildRequires Here is a brute force method of finding missing package BuildRequires. This works a lot better if you have a local apt/yum repository, or cache everything. Any suggestions for a cleaner way of testing for missing BuildRequires? Any suggestions for the "list of packages that should not be in BuildRequires" because they occur too frequently and should be in a standard build environment? We should define a standard minimal build environment for RHLP. Fedora currently does so implicitly with the dependencies of fedora-rpmdevtools. 3. Finding Redundant BuildRequires ================================== http://www.fedora.us/wiki/HOWTOUseRequires How not to be overzealous in adding BuildRequires, and including versioned dependencies when not needed. This document needs to be clarified a bit but otherwise good. 4. RPM Macros ============= http://www.fedora.us/wiki/RPMMacros Whenever possible use directory macros rather than hard coded directories. RHLP's docs should probably state the "why" too. 5. Strict Directory Ownership ============================= Any directory created by the package should be owned with a %dir entry within %files. rpm -vv shows unowned directories during installation, and I believe Enrico wrote a tool to test many RPMS and look for unowned directories. Attacking Epoch when I have more time later this week... Warren Togami warren(a)togami.com

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Is linux a plug and play OS?
by Scott Becker 23 Jul '03

23 Jul '03

Several times I've had difficultys bringing up eth0 after an OS install and found that setting "Plug and play OS" to "no" in the bios setup would cause Kudzu to find the nic and everything worked. This helped with 3 diffenent nics, including a 3c905c with rh9 and a sound card. Is far as I can tell the bios was assigning an IRQ and/or IO address after I made the change so that the device was ready for linux (kudzu) to use. Does linux normally handle this or does the bios need to set this way normally? Scott Becker

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A question about /linux/driver/net/e100
by De Yu Liu 23 Jul '03

23 Jul '03

Greeting all: In /linux/driver/net/e100 directory of RH 9, there are several files like e100_config.c, e100_eeprom.c, e100_main.c, e100_phy.c, e100_proc.c, e100_test.c and etc. What's is the relationship between them? Please draw me a picture like flow chart? Thanks in advance. Deyu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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Re: anonymous pserver access to rhlinux.redhat.com
by Bill Nottingham 23 Jul '03

23 Jul '03

Keld Jørn Simonsen (keld(a)dkuug.dk) said: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:34:40PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Anonymous pserver access to rhlinux.redhat.com should be restored > > now. We apologize for the inconvenience. > > would you know about login pserver access to i18n.redhat.com ? pserver is anonymous only. Other accounts go through ssh. Bill

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[Patch] Start rhgb after mounting partitions (if not done yet), was: Graphical boot isn't so graphical
by Nils Philippsen 23 Jul '03

23 Jul '03

On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 15:28, Jonathan Blandford wrote: > Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> writes: > > > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 00:43, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Jesse Keating (hosting(a)j2solutions.net) said: > > > > On Monday 21 July 2003 15:37, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > > You have a separate /usr? > > > > > > > > Yes, could that be it? > > > > > > That is exactly it, actaully. rhgb tries to start before /usr > > > is mounted, so it's very hard to run /usr/X11R6/bin/X in this > > > case. > > > > Hmm. How about retrying after mounts are in place? This is a similar > > situation as with swap files IMO. Will you accept a patch? > > Sure. Patch is attached to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100525 Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

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anonymous pserver access to rhlinux.redhat.com
by Bill Nottingham 22 Jul '03

22 Jul '03

Anonymous pserver access to rhlinux.redhat.com should be restored now. We apologize for the inconvenience. Bill

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