I do not know where to get FC 3 I am able to lay hands on FC2 only lay idea
where to get Fedora 3 CDs (In India). If I could lay hands on that I will
install FC 3.
Thanks for help
Regards
Moreshwar
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3. Re: Serial ATA Supprt (Arturo)
4. Re: Professionalism (Kyrre Ness Sjobak)
5. Re: Serial ATA Supprt (Alex Catullo)
6. Re: FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot (Jon Orris)
7. Re: "Professionalism" (Matthew Miller)
8. Re: Professionalism (Alex Catullo)
9. Re: Professionalism (Jason Knight)
10. Re: "Professinalism" syntax (Wally Wilson)
11. Re: Professionalism (Arturo)
12. Re: "Professinalism" syntax (seth vidal)
13. Re: Professionalism (Matthew Miller)
14. Re: Professionalism (Dave Jones)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:00:25 +0530
From: "Moreshwar Salpekar" <moreshwars(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: Serial ATA Supprt
To: <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <BAY18-DAV184nhrKtzc00010166(a)hotmail.com>
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Dear All,
I am new to this group. I just got a PC with motherboard Intel 915GAV. It
has two Serial ATA Hard disks one of 120GB with WinXP and other 80GB I
want
to use for Fedora. I want to know what core of Fedore I should go
for. I
got
Fedora Core 1 but it is unable to detect my hard drives. Will Fedora
Core
2
Help?
I read somewhere that Linux Kernel 2.6.x supports Serial ATA but Fedora
docs
mention nowhere on Serial ATA support is it there in fedora? If not
where
do
I get Serial ATA driver? I looked at Seagate site (both my hard
drives are
Seagate) but nothing there on Serial ATA driver for Linux?
I want to install Fedora asap.
Regards
Moreshwar
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:15:58 +0200
From: Kaspars <kaspars(a)os.lv>
Subject: FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot
To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
Message-ID: <41939E4E.2070105(a)os.lv>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Hi all,
I get FC3 DVD diska and installed fresh FC3 on my desktop wrk.
I boot in GUI and log in. My problem is that I can`t log out or reboot
or halt computer from GUI from desktop... i use defalt desktop what it
use. I updated all but still problem how i see is not corrected(maybe it
is only my pc problem).
So what I do is in FC3(I think def. I use Gnome), I want to reboot pc
and I go Action -> Log Out -> Chek "Restart the computer" and push Ok.
and it hangs. The some is with "Log out" or "Shut down"... I need to
go
to console bu ctrl+alt+F1 and log in as root and command to reboot.
How and where to fix it? And I only have satch problem?
thanks all,
Casper
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:51:36 +0000
From: Arturo <dalive(a)flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: Serial ATA Supprt
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4193A6A8.405(a)flashmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Moreshwar Salpekar wrote:
>Dear All,
>I am new to this group. I just got a PC with motherboard Intel 915GAV. It
>has two Serial ATA Hard disks one of 120GB with WinXP and other 80GB I
want
>to use for Fedora. I want to know what core of Fedore I should go
for. I
got
>Fedora Core 1 but it is unable to detect my hard drives. Will
Fedora Core
2
>Help?
>I read somewhere that Linux Kernel 2.6.x supports Serial ATA but Fedora
docs
>mention nowhere on Serial ATA support is it there in fedora? If
not where
do
>I get Serial ATA driver? I looked at Seagate site (both my hard
drives
are
>Seagate) but nothing there on Serial ATA driver for Linux?
>
>I want to install Fedora asap.
>
>Regards
>Moreshwar
>
>
>
I am no guru. But I have an SATA HDD in my Linux server. And I built it
from scratch (components) . My motherboard also has an SATA port, I
installed FC2 without a hitch. I didn't try FC1 on that setup.
BTW.....any reason why you're not installing FC3?
Peace
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:08:39 +0100
From: Kyrre Ness Sjobak <kyrre(a)solution-forge.net>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1100196519.2683.3.camel@kyrre>
Content-Type: text/plain
tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal:
> On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc(a)juno.com wrote:
> > To the developers,
> >
> > The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be
> > a major contender in the home and business markets. As it approaches
> > this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no longer the "geek
> > OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user
> > was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women
> > (I am married to one) and children (I have three). Linux is my main
> > OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it.
> >
> > With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place.
> > Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux
> > distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the
> > pack' in this area.
> >
> > This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the
> > content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers.
These
> > screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I
> > would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I
> > install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why?
> > Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes, I
> > can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need
> > to download or purchase them after installing the OS.
> >
> > Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora
> > distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as
> > possible.
>
> I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most
> professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts of
> things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think we should
> respect the differences between people and let adults choose what
> behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend
> screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a
> screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this
> anti-professional degradation.
>
>
> oh.. wait.. they're already there.
>
> hmm.
>
> -sv
>
Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile
in... lets say a school.
What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three
rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and
"xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by
default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be
removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they
suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them.
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:20:30 -0500
From: Alex Catullo <freelance0(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Serial ATA Supprt
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <6dc131f204111110201af49795(a)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Fedora core 2 and 3 should both detect SATA. If you still have trouble
with it, in the BIOS menu, go to the "advanced" tab and look at the
IDE configuration. By default, the IDE settings are set to "enhanced"
Switch that to "legacy" and make sure SATA 0 and IDE pri and sec are
active.
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:00:25 +0530, Moreshwar Salpekar
<moreshwars(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I am new to this group. I just got a PC with motherboard Intel 915GAV.
It
> has two Serial ATA Hard disks one of 120GB with WinXP and other
80GB I
want
>
to use for Fedora. I want to know what core of Fedore I should go
for. I
got
> Fedora Core 1 but it is unable to detect my hard drives. Will
Fedora
Core 2
> Help?
> I read somewhere that Linux Kernel 2.6.x supports Serial ATA but Fedora
docs
> mention nowhere on Serial ATA support is it there in fedora? If
not
where do
> I get Serial ATA driver? I looked at Seagate site (both my hard
drives
are
> Seagate) but nothing there on Serial ATA driver for Linux?
>
> I want to install Fedora asap.
>
> Regards
> Moreshwar
>
> --
> Fedora-desktop-list mailing list
> Fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
>
http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:31:16 -0500
From: Jon Orris <jorris(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot
To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
Message-ID: <1100197876.3855.3.camel(a)web.checkm8.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15 +0200, Kaspars wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I get FC3 DVD diska and installed fresh FC3 on my desktop wrk.
> I boot in GUI and log in. My problem is that I can`t log out or reboot
> or halt computer from GUI from desktop... i use defalt desktop what it
> use. I updated all but still problem how i see is not corrected(maybe it
> is only my pc problem).
> So what I do is in FC3(I think def. I use Gnome), I want to reboot pc
> and I go Action -> Log Out -> Chek "Restart the computer" and push
Ok.
> and it hangs. The some is with "Log out" or "Shut down"... I
need to go
> to console bu ctrl+alt+F1 and log in as root and command to reboot.
> How and where to fix it? And I only have satch problem?
>
> thanks all,
>From your description, it sounds like this bug that I reported:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134265
The current workaround is to disable DRI, at least on my machine.
It may be helpful in tracking the root cause if you append your hardware
& xconfig info to the bug report.
--
Jon Orris <jorris(a)redhat.com>
Red Hat
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:35:56 -0500
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)mattdm.org>
Subject: Re: "Professionalism"
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20041111183556.GB30285(a)jadzia.bu.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:49:59AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
> At OLS last year (I think during Erik Troan's talk on conary), whilst
> taking questions, barcode kicked in. On a ~10ft projector, with the
> word 'flatulence'.
That's one of the words that's patched out, actually.
Hmm; on looking, the "sanitize-hacks" patch wasn't in FC2; it's new to
FC3.
Perhaps right after the incident you mention. :)
--
Matthew Miller mattdm(a)mattdm.org <
http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux ------> <
http://linux.bu.edu/>
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:06:46 -0500
From: Alex Catullo <freelance0(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <6dc131f20411111106640f5e9f(a)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Professionalism in linux is definitely a nice thing, but if you want
it, go out and get a copy of enterprise Linux. In Fedora, it's all
about the bleeding edge technology and newest ideas from the
community, and being "professional" limits that quite a bit. At least
in fedora ther'es the freedom for the creative things like the
"unprofessional" barcode and flying toasters screensavers. That's what
it's all about, the freedom to add any ideas; and that's why Fedora
isn't "professional"
"I was rather disappointed with the content in the "WebCollage" and
"Barcode" screensavers. These screensavers have since been manually
removed from my system, but I would have preferred them not to be
installed by default. When I install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like
this is not included. Why?"
Because this is Linux. Linux is meant to be that quirky OS that
releives the boredom of stock operating systems like windows. If you
want to be professional, use RHEL. But in Fedora, we strive to endorse
new ideas, regardless of their "professionality"
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:08:39 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak
<kyrre(a)solution-forge.net> wrote:
> tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal:
>
>
> > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc(a)juno.com wrote:
> > > To the developers,
> > >
> > > The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will
be
> > > a major contender in the home and business markets.
As it
approaches
> > > this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no
longer the "geek
> > > OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user
> > > was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both),
women
> > > (I am married to one) and children (I have three).
Linux is my main
> > > OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it.
> > >
> > > With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take
place.
> > > Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading
consumer Linux
> > > distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the
> > > pack' in this area.
> > >
> > > This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the
> > > content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode"
screensavers. These
> > > screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I
> > > would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I
> > > install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why?
> > > Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes,
I
> > > can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows,
but I would need
> > > to download or purchase them after installing the OS.
> > >
> > > Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora
> > > distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as
> > > possible.
> >
> > I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most
> > professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts
of
> > things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think
we should
> > respect the differences between people and let adults choose what
> > behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend
> > screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a
> > screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this
> > anti-professional degradation.
> >
> >
> > oh.. wait.. they're already there.
> >
> > hmm.
> >
> > -sv
> >
>
> Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile
> in... lets say a school.
>
> What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three
> rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and
> "xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by
> default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be
> removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they
> suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them.
>
>
>
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> Fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
>
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------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:31:27 -0500
From: Jason Knight <jason(a)cassiopaea.com>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Alex Catullo <freelance0(a)gmail.com>, Discussions about development
for the Fedora desktop <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4193DA2F.5090409(a)cassiopaea.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
I understand both sides of the coin but I agree with Alex. Also;
[And since most professionals are adults and know that world is filled
with all sorts of things that _you_ may not like but that others may[...]]
This works both ways, Fedora is a project meant to encourage creativity
and contribution. It makes no claims to being "The Safest Linux for Your
Kids!", "Squeamish? Worry not dear fellow, we strive daily to insure
that you and your family are completely insolated from the peckidillos
and quirks of others!"
"We either accept all freedom for all people, or we accept no freedom
for anyone. The happy medium is an illusion."
Of course, Fedora is RH's project, and it is steered by a committee, so
we must abide by their decsions, but I don't see even mildly-moderately
offensive screensavers being a huge issue in an Open Source, community
driven project where creative innovation is desired. Let's try to keep a
light heart!
-ishikawa
Alex Catullo wrote:
>Professionalism in linux is definitely a nice thing, but if you want
>it, go out and get a copy of enterprise Linux. In Fedora, it's all
>about the bleeding edge technology and newest ideas from the
>community, and being "professional" limits that quite a bit. At least
>in fedora ther'es the freedom for the creative things like the
>"unprofessional" barcode and flying toasters screensavers. That's what
>it's all about, the freedom to add any ideas; and that's why Fedora
>isn't "professional"
>
> "I was rather disappointed with the content in the "WebCollage" and
>"Barcode" screensavers. These screensavers have since been manually
>removed from my system, but I would have preferred them not to be
>installed by default. When I install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like
>this is not included. Why?"
>
>Because this is Linux. Linux is meant to be that quirky OS that
>releives the boredom of stock operating systems like windows. If you
>want to be professional, use RHEL. But in Fedora, we strive to endorse
>new ideas, regardless of their "professionality"
>
>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:08:39 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak
><kyrre(a)solution-forge.net> wrote:
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:28:51 -0800
From: Wally Wilson <alt.wally(a)mousemeadows.com>
Subject: Re: "Professinalism" syntax
To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
Message-ID: <1100212131.2230.10.camel(a)Laptron4020.attbi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 10:49 -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:34:40AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> At OLS last year (I think during Erik Troan's talk on conary), whilst
> taking questions, barcode kicked in. On a ~10ft projector, with the
> word 'flatulence'.
>
> Unfortunate and somewhat embarressing perhaps, but highly amusing.
>
> The choice of words barcode uses do seem to be of this nature a lot
> of the time, so I can sort of see the OPs point.
I'm all for professionalism but I'm MORE for acting like an adult and
realizing the world isn't all roses and tea.
-sv
--------------------------------
The real issue -- the issue that the original author failed to address
-- is not about "professionalism" at all. The real issue is about
personal mores and taste.
Words mean things, and the Fedora package is every bit as "professional"
as any other Linux distro.
If someone does not like, or want something as simple as a screen saver,
for whatever reasons, it is their choice and their responsibility to
address the matter on each machine they administer. The same argument
could be made for including games in the distro when it is used in a
work environment that does not allow games.
The responsibility for administering a system lies with the owner, not
the software manufacturer. MS has made good money trying to remove the
responsibility of system admin from its userbase, and that is not how
the real world works.
-wally
------------------------------
Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:06:40 +0000
From: Arturo <dalive(a)flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4193FE90.3090402(a)flashmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
>tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal:
>
>
>>On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc(a)juno.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>To the developers,
>>>
>>>The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be
>>>a major contender in the home and business markets. As it approaches
>>>this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no longer the "geek
>>>OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user
>>>was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women
>>>(I am married to one) and children (I have three). Linux is my main
>>>OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it.
>>>
>>>With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place.
>>>Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux
>>>distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the
>>>pack' in this area.
>>>
>>>This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the
>>>content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers.
These
>>>screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I
>>>would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I
>>>install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why?
>>>Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes, I
>>>can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need
>>>to download or purchase them after installing the OS.
>>>
>>>Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora
>>>distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as
>>>possible.
>>>
>>>
>>I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most
>>professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts of
>>things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think we should
>>respect the differences between people and let adults choose what
>>behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend
>>screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a
>>screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this
>>anti-professional degradation.
>>
>>
>>oh.. wait.. they're already there.
>>
>>hmm.
>>
>>-sv
>>
>>
>>
>
>Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile
>in... lets say a school.
>
>What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three
>rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and
>"xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by
>default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be
>removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they
>suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them.
>
>
>
This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in
response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat
curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode.
Peace
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:21:50 -0500
From: seth vidal <skvidal(a)phy.duke.edu>
Subject: Re: "Professinalism" syntax
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1100218910.6926.10.camel@binkley>
Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Words mean things, and the Fedora package is every bit as "professional"
> as any other Linux distro.
actually, it's not, it is explicitly a hobbyist distro.
see the website.
-sv
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:31:45 -0500
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)mattdm.org>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20041112003145.GA9755(a)jadzia.bu.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote:
> This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in
> response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat
> curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode.
Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...):
abdomen
abeyance
abhorrence
abrasion
abstraction
acid
addiction
alertness
Algeria
anxiety
aorta
argyle socks
attrition
axis of evil
bamboo
bangle
bankruptcy
baptism
beer
bellicosity
bells
belly
bliss
bogosity
booty
bread
bubba
burrito
California
capybara
cardinality
caribou
carnage
children
chocolate
CLONE
constriction
contrition
cop
corpse
cowboy
crabapple
craziness
cthulhu
Death
decepticon
deception
Decker
decoder
decoy
defenestration
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Matthew Miller mattdm(a)mattdm.org <
http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux ------> <
http://linux.bu.edu/>
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:38:33 -0500
From: Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote:
> > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far
in
> > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however,
somwhat
> > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode.
>
> Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...):
It's certainly an insight into that developers head 8-)
Monkeybutter indeed.. *shakes head*
Dave
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:51:47 +0000
From: Arturo <dalive(a)flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
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Dave Jones wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote:
> > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so
far in
> > > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am
however, somwhat
> > > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode.
> >
> > Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...):
>
>It's certainly an insight into that developers head 8-)
>
>
And what have you learnt, pray tell
>Monkeybutter indeed.. *shakes head*
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:55:44 +0000
From: Douglas Furlong <douglas.furlong(a)firebox.com>
Subject: Re: Professionalism
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
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On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 00:51 +0000, Arturo wrote:
> Dave Jones wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote:
> > > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so
far in
> > > > > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however,
somwhat
> > > > > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...):
> > >
> > >It's certainly an insight into that developers head 8-)
> > >
> > >
> > And what have you learnt, pray tell
> >
> If nothing else it has kept me highly ammused.
>
> However, I am not entirely sure how "Abdomen" is an offencive word, or
> unprofessional for that matter :)
>
>
> --
> Douglas Furlong
> Systems Administrator
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