On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 10:12 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> - The initial gdm screen is a bit of a hack. The message that
you can
> click on the Fedora feels ugly. If we must have the GDM screen for
> keyboard or language, we might want to go through firstboot or
> something.
Euw, gods no. Please. I don't want to click many times on a task driven
interface just to get started whenever I boot the live CD. Perhaps if
you could qualify a bit more why the gdm screen "is a bit of a hack" it
would be useful.
Surely we can get it to once per task, no? Anyway, the current gdm
screen does feel like a hack to me. I think it's the "click on the
fedora icon to log in" aspect. It would be nice to see a screen that's
dedicated to the Live CD here.
Either way, gdm _needs_ this functionality (think shared computer
with
users having varying language preferences); punting this to Fedora
specific tools is in my view a much greater hack. This is the old
mantra: do the work upstream etc. etc.
My fault. I was jumping ahead in my head to the brave new world of gdm
where firstboot and gdm are integrated, and language/accessibility are
part of the environment. I'm basically proposing an extra mode to GDM
just for that.
Another reason for gdm is if you ship a live image with both GNOME
and
KDE. Then you'd have several faces to click on.
Hrm. Is that enough in the cards that we should design for it?
> - While signing up for a wireless network, it gnome-keyring
prompts me
> for a keyring password.
This is a good point, maybe the live cd initscript should set a blank
password for the fedora users keyring. Even better, perhaps the
gnome-keyring bits can detect a blank password (probably harder since it
would require to init the pam stack and check the conversation is
empty).
Yeah. You're bound to trigger that dialog one way or another during the
session.
> - nautilus shows the Live CD on the desktop, and lets you try
to
> eject/unmount it.
By design. The idea is that the Live CD itself can contain promo /
information / foreign apps that is also visible when mounting it on
foreign OS's (Windows, Macs). We just haven't used this feature (we
should).
Can't we just have the promo appear as part of the image? Also, isn't
the user name on the f-u-s applet 'Fedora Live'? As implemented right
now, the CD is strange.
Further, having the icon is a good indicator for people they're
running
a live OS. Maybe the eject/unmount should be greyed out; then again, you
can't actually unmount/eject it; you are given an error message if you
try.
I would vote to make it insensitive at a minimum.
Yes. Anaconda pulls in a lot of the system-config-* tools that are
not
very useful neither on the live cd nor on the installed system. There's
also like three SELinux icons or something in the menus. All of them
really needs to go on the desktop live cd.
Agree, though I think you mean go _from_ the live CD. (-;
Thanks,
-Jonathan