The appearance menu item has disappeared from the menu panel. Now there are individual items for a few things that used to be in appearance. Is this intentional behavior? If so, what is the new recommended way to change themes?
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 10:15 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
The appearance menu item has disappeared from the menu panel. Now there are individual items for a few things that used to be in appearance. Is this intentional behavior?
Yes.
If so, what is the new recommended way to change themes?
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at some point.
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 02:01 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
If so, what is the new recommended way to change themes?
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at some point.
on a pragmatic level, I think we're *really* going to want to have some sort of tweak mechanism available in F15 (assuming we do wind up shipping Shell in it). Otherwise the masses are sure going to be revolting. I like using default themes, but when I tell people this they usually seem to look at me as if I've grown an extra head.
(I'm not entirely sure it's even theoretically possible to settle the great 'Aw3som3 Killer Dark Theme' vs 'Cool Mac-Like Light Theme' debate with a one-size-fits-all default, either. If some kind of color customization of the default theme is available that'd probably be enough; mostly people seem to equate 'theme' with 'color', in my experience.)
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 22:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 02:01 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
If so, what is the new recommended way to change themes?
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at some point.
on a pragmatic level, I think we're *really* going to want to have some sort of tweak mechanism available in F15 (assuming we do wind up shipping Shell in it). Otherwise the masses are sure going to be revolting. I like using default themes, but when I tell people this they usually seem to look at me as if I've grown an extra head.
(I'm not entirely sure it's even theoretically possible to settle the great 'Aw3som3 Killer Dark Theme' vs 'Cool Mac-Like Light Theme' debate with a one-size-fits-all default, either. If some kind of color customization of the default theme is available that'd probably be enough; mostly people seem to equate 'theme' with 'color', in my experience.)
There's nothing stopping the tweakers from getting started on writing the plumbing app. There's a mockup here: http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html
And gnome-control-center has plenty of examples of how to write panels. Somebody just needs to get started with it.
Note that this wouldn't go in gnome-control-center itself.
Hi Bastien,
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 12:24 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
There's nothing stopping the tweakers from getting started on writing the plumbing app. There's a mockup here: http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html
And gnome-control-center has plenty of examples of how to write panels. Somebody just needs to get started with it.
Note that this wouldn't go in gnome-control-center itself.
Doesn't that blog post say it will or am I misunderstanding?
Is Vincent still interested in writing it or is no one working on it?
~m
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:34 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Hi Bastien,
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 12:24 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
There's nothing stopping the tweakers from getting started on writing the plumbing app. There's a mockup here: http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html
And gnome-control-center has plenty of examples of how to write panels. Somebody just needs to get started with it.
Note that this wouldn't go in gnome-control-center itself.
Doesn't that blog post say it will or am I misunderstanding?
Misunderstanding. It will be a control-center panel, but it won't ship with the control-center package itself.
Is Vincent still interested in writing it or is no one working on it?
That's what was mentioned at the time, but he still hasn't started working on it. I believe that people at the "Munich hackfest" will be starting work on it though.
Cheers
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 14:06 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:34 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Doesn't that blog post say it will or am I misunderstanding?
Misunderstanding. It will be a control-center panel, but it won't ship with the control-center package itself.
Is Vincent still interested in writing it or is no one working on it?
That's what was mentioned at the time, but he still hasn't started working on it. I believe that people at the "Munich hackfest" will be starting work on it though.
Awesome, thanks for the info (and responding so quickly)!
~m
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:01:41 +0000, Bastien Nocera bnocera@redhat.com wrote:
The recommended way is not to, and use the nice new themes we're preparing for GNOME 3. If you really want to tweak, gsettings on the command-line for now. There's supposed to be a tweak panel coming at some point.
OK. I am not likely to want to use gnome 3 over metacity unless I can have lots of workspaces. Last time I checked this was hard to do in compiz, which is why I am not using that.
I like the echo icons, so I usually use the normal Fedora theme (with a manual change to clearlooks to work around a bug) with the icons changed to echo and a background image set.
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