On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 09:52 +0100, Allan Day wrote:

Would we recommend that those who want to help with Software testing run it with --verbose,

Hi, it's discussed here: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/silverblue/task/135 Do not be confused with the 'silverblue' project, the arguments there apply to anywhere. Long story short: the verbose log is too chatty.

or run it from gdb?

Neither the verbose log nor the gdb can help for all issues. The gdb is good for crashes, but that can be caught by the coredumpctl. The gdb can be used to see what the application does, eventually whether it's stuck in any call. That can be done on demand, like with the following command:

gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" --pid=`pidof gnome-software` &>bt.txt

without running the application from the gdb since the beginning. One might verify the bt.txt doesn't expose anything private before sharing it in public, though gnome-software doesn't do anything with credentials/passwords on its own, as far as I know.

That being said, it depends on the problem itself what would be helpful and what not. If you want me to enable the verbose log for these development builds, then I can do it (by patching the code in the package). Bye, Milan