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On Jan 27, 2015 11:42 PM, "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb(a)znmeb.net>
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Liam <liam.bulkley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that's the fundamental issue but I don't think we're going to get
> movement on this at this point in time. The answer Workstation
> was that it's for both, but with a bit of an emphasis on
> developers/producers (I agree that the later term is better and
> how we should think).
> My personal position has been that we should target ONLY producers.
> environment that helps them achieve their goals more
> at all. That's what would draw people to the Fedora
At this stage of the Linux lifecycle (20+ years and counting) you have
to ask, "What would take people *away* from Debian and Ubuntu and
guide them into the world of Fedora, RHEL and CentOS?" I don't think
you're going to get people off of Macs, and if they're on Windows they
live in a different world entirely. ;-)
I'm not talking about "people" I'm talking about producers,
this point a majority of macs are being sold to people, but it used to be
that they were used by creatives and schools. Why? Mostly app availability
but also a perception that apple was developing for them in particular.
With osx they took a massive leap forward with their tech and actual began
to offer better workflows than windows. THAT'S what we should be trying to
do. It's not easy but it's something that would definitely bring new users.
It would finally provide us with a compelling story for those who aren't
passionate about floss. As it is, Linux, on the desktop, has no compelling
advantages over osx/windows.
And honestly, if you're developing *for* RHEL / CentOS, why would
run a Fedora desktop instead of an RHEL / CentOS desktop? Fedora's
only 2.5 releases newer than Fedora 19, the basis for RHEL 7.
A lot has happened in those 2.5 releases;)
Reasons to run Fedora are several: more recent software, chance to
see/guide changes that will make their way to rhel, and easiest for
upstream developers (obviously).
Indeed. I've seen a few posts go by in this thread praising
let me add to the chorus. Obviously there are lawyer-accountant things
that would have to be done, but I think a Fedora (Red Hat) partnership
with Mozilla is a damn good idea. I gave up on Chrome and Chromium a
where it's at unless you're targeting iOS.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on with Fedora and Mozilla. I know
at least one Fedora member who's leading the effort in porting Firefox to
gtk3, but, other than that, there doesn't seem to be much collaboration.