On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 03:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/27/2009 02:13 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> We have not just removed irrelevant crap from the appearance capplet to
> make room for more....
> This switching mechanism is temporary to facilitate trying out the shell
> while it is in beta. It will go away when the shell becomes the primary
Considering that it serves a useful purpose even if it temporary and itt
is not irrelevant crap, it seems it would have fit into the appearance
capplet rather than as a separate preferences menu item. It wouldn't
bother me much if not for the fact that there is no categorization by
default and it is long enough not to fit into my screen completely.
That is a very visible item that needs improvement but I suppose the
development is focused on GNOME Shell instead.
"Instead" here isn't really an appropriate characterization. It all fits
together. In gnome-shell, you have two options for preferences:
- they show up when searching
- you can get to the "gnome-control-center" shell under the user
We might not eventually be using something different from the current
gnome-control-center, but the basic plan will be along those lines.
> Also, if you use the switch you are complaining about, your
> problems will be solved by way of the shell not having menus :-)
I am not complaining about the switch itself but the placement of it.
Using it btw just gives me a blank desktop and all I can is the desktop
background and I have to restart X to get my session back. However
gnome-shell --replace on the command line works
Does it fix itself if you wait long enough for desktop-effects to time
out? (I think it's 35 seconds or so now ... give it a minute.)
Can you file a bug about this against desktop-effects in Red Hat
bugzilla (include information about your video card.). I don't have many
immediate ideas why this could be happening, since all desktop-effects
does is run 'gnome-shell --replace' but it definitely needs to be
and the shell still has menus in the side bar even though it seems
to missing many application entries.
The missing applications was fixed shortly after 2.27.0 release; I'm
really hoping to get through everything and have updated gnome-shell
I worked with the shell for a few days, the parts that work are
very well done but there are still some obvious problems that make it
hard to use it on a more permanent basis. I will keep a tab on it and
write up the details if the issues I see linger. I understood from the
comments on IRC in response to my post in fedora-test list about GNOME
shell that you aren't keen to take bug reports just yet.
We certainly welcome bug reports, but:
- For stuff that isn't packaging, we'd prefer upstream bug reports:
if the reporter files the bug upstream themselves, they can check if
it's a duplicate see previous discussion, get updates when it is
fixed, etc. Which is not available if we are upstreaming the bug
- It's not too useful to have bug reports on 3 week old packages; I'm
shooting for weekly releases, though so far I haven't come close to