Hi, folks. I'm helping dmalcolm with the Python 2.7 rebuild at the moment. gnome-python2-desktop is failing to build for reasons which have nothing to do with Python 2.7 and everything to do with GTK+ 3 and GNOME 3.
It has modules for Brasero and Evince, both of which have now been ported to GTK+ 3. Trying to build gnome-python2-desktop with these modules enabled fails due to various changes between GTK+2 and GTK+3. g-p2-d also has gnome media profiles support: gnome-media-profiles has also been made into a new gnome-media-profiles-3.0 version which requires GTK+3 according to its pkgconfig file, so I suspect gnome-python2-desktop will need adjusting for that too.
For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled. This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should be fixed properly - upstream, of course.
Adam Williamson (awilliam@redhat.com) said:
For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled. This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should be fixed properly - upstream, of course.
I can't see any other solution than dropping those modules permanently - you don't want apps trying to import a gtk3 version of gnome-python2-evince and a gtk2 version of gnome-python2-something-else.
Bill
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 16:27 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Adam Williamson (awilliam@redhat.com) said:
For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled. This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should be fixed properly - upstream, of course.
I can't see any other solution than dropping those modules permanently - you don't want apps trying to import a gtk3 version of gnome-python2-evince and a gtk2 version of gnome-python2-something-else.
True, I guess we just wait for the tipping point where most things are ported to gtk3 and then drop stuff that's still gtk2 instead?
On 07/28/2010 02:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
True, I guess we just wait for the tipping point where most things are ported to gtk3 and then drop stuff that's still gtk2 instead?
It would have been nice to use a separate tag for the gtk3 transition rather than messing up Rawhide. We should try to keep Rawhide usable at all times. Python 2.7 is being done the right way.
Rahul
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 16:27 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Adam Williamson (awilliam@redhat.com) said:
For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled. This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should be fixed properly - upstream, of course.
I can't see any other solution than dropping those modules permanently - you don't want apps trying to import a gtk3 version of gnome-python2-evince and a gtk2 version of gnome-python2-something-else.
True, I guess we just wait for the tipping point where most things are ported to gtk3 and then drop stuff that's still gtk2 instead?
The sugar-read is a massive problem for the Sugar on a Stick spin and OLPC downstream.
The fact is that the gnome team should have a plan for this as part of their migration to the whole g*3 project. I believe that alot of the support in those bindings is plain moving to gobject-intropection auto generated bindings so maybe it might be worth someone from the upstream teams that have crossover into the fedora team actually giving feedback here. The person that comes to mind that might be able to give direction is Colin Walters as he's intimately involved in the introspection bindings as its possibly that the bindings that aren't being updated already have the related bits in place.
Peter
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 13:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hi, folks. I'm helping dmalcolm with the Python 2.7 rebuild at the moment. gnome-python2-desktop is failing to build for reasons which have nothing to do with Python 2.7 and everything to do with GTK+ 3 and GNOME 3.
It has modules for Brasero and Evince, both of which have now been ported to GTK+ 3. Trying to build gnome-python2-desktop with these modules enabled fails due to various changes between GTK+2 and GTK+3. g-p2-d also has gnome media profiles support: gnome-media-profiles has also been made into a new gnome-media-profiles-3.0 version which requires GTK+3 according to its pkgconfig file, so I suspect gnome-python2-desktop will need adjusting for that too.
For now I'm going to send David a build with the Brasero and Evince modules disabled and the gnome-media-profiles support also disabled. This will break a couple of apps - pybackpack and sugar-read - but that's presumably preferable to having gnome-python2-desktop broken entirely (and hence also gnome-applets). Obviously, though, this should be fixed properly - upstream, of course.
Consider all those deprecated, and use the new PyGI bindings for them instead. You might also need to port the rest of the app if you want it to work...
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