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From: "Máirín Duffy" <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>
To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop"
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Cc: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:09:55 AM
Subject: Re: LISA conference, Fedora, and the sysadmin use case.
On 11/14/2013 10:39 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 08:18:51 -0500,
> Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> - handling of many multiple terminal windows
>
> What were they looking for here? I use workspace switcher on XFCE with
> 12 or 15 workspaces and use each workspace for a standard application or
> terminal window with an ssh connection to a particular host. By being
> consistent about what is where it is easy to go to a desired application
> or terminal session.
I think it's what mizmo referred to below - the gnome-shell case - it is just a sea of
black boxes in the overview if you have too many open. and while i think there's
definitely cases where people can just be more organized about their desktop usage or use
workspaces more efficiently - there's also a case to be made for the admin who
doesn't keep windows open to every host (anyone with any significant number of
machines, basically), who might want to troubleshoot a handful of machines at once, etc.
FWIW what I've observed in an unrelated usability study (one we did for
systemd that involved working with terminals) is in gnome-shell, when
you go to the overview you have a bunch of black rectangles (the
terminal thumbs) that all look the same, so the task of identifying
which black rectangle was the right one to click on to get the terminal
you needed was challenging.
While it may be more of a "developer use case" than a "sysadmin use
case" - I can certainly attest to the frustration of the other half of my household
with the "which black rectangle" problem - his work typically involves needing
numerous multiple terminal windows open simultaneously for coding, testing, tracing
issues, etc. "How am I supposed to find anything?! I can't even see what is in
the windows unless I click on them..."
-robyn
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