sorry for top post on mobile....
where did the warm feelings thing come from? did i miss some backstory / context?
~m
On Feb 7, 2018 at 11:16 AM, <Bastien Nocera> wrote:
----- Original Message ----- > > On 02/07/2018 09:07 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > Note that I think the current default background is really nice, it's
just > > not appropriate I don't think. > > > I don't
think critiquing Fedora's art direction is the right conversation to > be having
here. It's not the core issue. It might not be, but we're talking about making
Fedora "warmer" and about how the background stamp/watermark isn't the best
solution to adding branding to the background. I think it's a conversation to have,
even as it's relevant to the bigger picture. > The conversation that I think
would be more productive and is more at the > root of the conflict here is
understanding how we balance the very important > principle of 'upstream
first' with the also very important principle of > differentiation. I think the
disagreement being expressed in this thread is > at what level should the
differentiation be taking place. Should the > dif
ferentia
tion be taking place upstream at the GNOME level, or should it be > taking place
downstream at the distro level? The dichotomy isn't that one, it's about what
Fedora, or other distros, wants or needs to be able to implement that differentiation, and
whether it's something that upstream thinks is a good idea, and therefore makes it
easier for downstreams to differentiate. For example, we went back and forth over the
years as to whether the Details panel in the Settings should reflect the GNOME version and
logo, or the distribution one. The WIP changes make it straight forward to brand that part
of the system, and will mean less work for downstream to adapt to their needs. >
Bottom line: I that you disagree with Fedora's art direction, but if it was >
perfectly to your taste, this problem would still be unresolved. I thought I made that
clear. It's to my taste, just not as a default background that gives me warm feelings
of belonging. Which is what we were discussing in t
he threa
d.