On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 20:42 Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Wed, 2020-09-16 at 19:17 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:55 pm, majid hussain <mhussaincov93@gmx.com>
> wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > i'm no dev but
> >
> > i'm blind would functional include being accessible to orca the
> > screen reader?
> >
> > after all to a blind person like me having an accessible setup
> > experience is a requirement?
> >
> > or after I install the system, I would be in the dark?
> >
> > Majid
> >
> I think it makes sense to have a criterion to ensure, at minimum, that
> the screen reader is working throughout the initial setup process, yes.
> orca was completely broken in F33 until last week [1] and we only
> noticed by coincidence, since it doesn't get tested much.
> Unfortunately right now the login screen is not accessible (regression,
> [2]). gnome-initial-setup is pretty hard to use with just a screen
> reader. And anaconda doesn't seem to be accessible at all (at least, I
> don't know how to get orca to read anything in anaconda). So things
> would probably need to first be in better shape before we can actually
> start enforcing a blocker criterion to ensure it stays working....

Right, I pretty much agree with Michael.

The way I'd want it to work in the criteria, ideally, is we'd say
something like "all desktop requirements must be met for blind users
with assistive technology, e.g. screen reading" - i.e. rather than this
being a criterion exactly, we'd expect sufficient a11y support to be in
place that *all* the desktop criteria would be met for blind users. But
as Michael says, it sounds like we haven't really got things in good
enough shape yet that we'd be able to enforce such a requirement right
now, so that should be fixed first.
Adam Williamson
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