Am Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:47:28 +0530
schrieb Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org>:
Sebastian Vahl wrote:
> I want to start a discussion about the package list on a possible
> f7-kde-livecd. It would be much easier for me to test some
> configurations when the direction is cleared. :)
> So I've got some questions:
> 1. Configuration: Do we want (according to the
> gnome/desktop-livecd) a base configuration and an "advanced"
> configuration? Of course only one (the advanced) would be created
> and published. But having a standard configuration would it make
> easier to change some things.
I would prefer just a standard configuration. I dont think a split is
necessary. The tools should be easy enough to use a single
configuration as a template to customize the packages further.
I now think so, too. When also creating a live dvd, three configuration
files would be too much.
> 2. Browser/Email: Do we want Firefox and/or Evolution on the
> live-cd? (Be aware that space is limited)
How much space? If there is space, it might be useful to include them.
Only including firefox: Iso is 30 Mb bigger.
Including firefox and evolution: Iso is 40 Mb bigger.
> 3. Do we want krusader and/or dolphin on the live-cd? In general:
> Do we want duplications in the functionality of applications (not as
> easy as it sounds; eg. amarok vs. noatun?
We have to get a complete list of potential duplicates and decide on
a case by case basis I think. While Krusader and Konqueror are both
advanced user tool, I would consider including Dolphin as the
default file manager (especially since it has got commonly requested
features like tree view and is scheduled to be the default for KDE 4)
and configure Konqueror to be the default web browser with the
profile being configured appropriate.
I haven't tried dolphin for a long time. But last time it was not
localized and seems in an early stage (but functional). What I have
read dolphin for KDE4 is developed while developing of dolphin for KDE3
was stopped. But I'm not sure with this.
In KDE3 konqueror is the default filemanager and I don't think we
should change this for a live cd.
> 4. What about localisation? The kde-i18n-packages are not
> slim. So perhaps putting them on a live-dvd would be the better idea
> (gnome/desktop-livecd is fully localized)
You probably cant include Openoffice.org
if you include I18N
packages. I guess doing what GNOME live CD does makes sense. Do you
plan on providing a live DVD too?
Localisation could only be included in a live dvd, I think. Otherwise
there would not be any other packages than some of the official kde
ones (eg no koffice or amarok due to space limitation). The packages of
kde-i18n-* and koffice-langpack-* takes about 340 Mb (downloaded rpms).
ATM I'm not sure if livecd-creator is able to create a dvd. But having
a dvd (at least for localisation) would be great.
> b) An "advanced" CD uses ~705 MB.
Accessibility is also important. Do these sizes refer to compressed
This was the size of the iso file created by mkisofs. The "advanced"
version I'm playing around with now is about 683MB.
I've set up a preliminary wiki page where I have described some
This version is still splitted into three versions and it was not
discussed so far. Just want to have a start for todays KDE-SIG meeting.
Then it will be changed.