----- Original Message -----
Well as the PRD already says we do hope and expect the product will be
useful to a wider audience, but since the PRD is meant to set a
development focus it needs to be focused.
Then note that in PRD :) And highlight the focus on developers, this
way it really sounds like the doors are closed there (and seems like
these are not only my feelings from the thread).
But of course we should review
the product plan over time to both see if it is working out and
achieving the goals we have set for it and to see if we should adjust
the overall target/goal for the product.
So hopefully for Fedora marketing having something a bit more targeted
should hopefully make their job easier as there is a clearer story that
can be told to potential users. Ryan and Mo is currently working on
developing the branding for the 3 new products so hopefully we can tie
into that effort to help provide a baseline 'sales pitch' for the Fedora
For marketing - aiming one group is definitely easier but it also creates
barriers for the future. Once you starts marketing Workstation as developers
system, it will create an entry barrier for people aka "I'm not developer,
it's not a distro for me" and it'd pretty difficult to get rid of this
stamp in the future. Same as now we are still fighting that Fedora is not
for users but bleeding edge fans.
Don't take this as I'm against the idea, I understand that with our limited
resources it's better to aim on the less wider audience and make sure we
can support it and provide the best experience. I'm just trying to say -
do not limit it too much, it could be pretty hard to step out of the
shadow of this decision :).
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 06:26 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Who are 'they' here? developers or the marketing?
> > Have been discussing with product management and the Red Hat developer
> > evangelist to make sure we try to satisfy the needs of developers. As
> > for the needs of marketing we will of course make an ISO image available
> > they can use for making install media to hand out. But maybe I am
> > missing the point of your question here?
> I expect "they" means Fedora marketing. So far Fedora aims much broader
> audience (and it's of course questionable, if it's worth to be all purpose
> system), this PRD limits it to a very small subset of users. And yeah,
> it means, Ambassadors and Marketing would have to change the strategy. In
> the last few years we tried to move Fedora to non techies world/events...
> Does this open possibility of having another product? Workstation product
> for developers and Desktop product as more users aimed one? But I still
> think we can catch good portion of users from both worlds by aiming one
> level up - content creators/makers with developers being one big group,
> why not only developers in the beginning to speed up development but not
> to close doors for expanding this audience.
> > Christian
> > On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 19:56 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > "The system will primarily be aimed at providing a platform for
> > > development of server side and client applications that is attractive
> > > to
> > > a range of developers"
> > >
> > > Right now we hand out Fedora at a number of events, including those not
> > > aimed at developers. Has there been discussion with marketing to figure
> > > out whether workstation is going to satisfy their needs?
> > >
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