On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Nikos Roussos <comzeradd@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 05:57:13PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Find somewhere it should be, then, please. Is the login screen not a good place for this? If the user installed the system, surely they know what it is. If the user did not, they must login and could see a logo at the login screen.
Not necessarily, in a number of cases. One is in institutional use, where the system may log into a shared account automatically. Another is in conferences or other places where Fedora may be seen in use. If someone is giving a demo at a meetup using Fedora Workstation, that doesn't need to be all obnoxious, but it'd be nice if it were easy to notice.

+1. The conference scenario is a common one. I use an add-on [1] just to add Fedora logo by the Activities menu because I want to show people that I'm using Fedora, and there is no other way of doing that during a presentation/workshop.

Also I don't think the "Upstream doesn't put a logo" is a good argument. We are not just distributing upstream. We are building a product (Workstation in this case) and we can decide on our own what's best.



I think it's great that you choose to support Fedora, but I disagree. When I'm doing a presentation I want my work to be featured, and I want as little distraction as possible. Fedora Workstation is shipping GNOME, which was designed following that same philosophy. It's the reason I've been a GNOME user for so many years and a big part of what makes it great.

"upstream doesn't put a logo" is not the full argument as it doesn't take into account the *why* of that decision. They didn't put a logo in the panel because there was no room to put a logo there under the principles that guided their entire design. When someone who is not a designer, was not involved at all in that process, and doesn't even understand what went into it, comes in and starts making changes as if they were just cosmetic details you end up with a bad design. 

Let's not forget that a brand is not just a logo. Being the best operating system with GNOME has become part of Fedora's brand, and something that has gained it quite a few users over recent years. Making the GNOME experience worse would in no way help the Fedora brand.

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Evandro