Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 09:20 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 15:00 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 20:48 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> > Tomorrows rawhide will have a new notification theme for Gnome.
> >
> > The aim of this new theme is to integrate well with the theming in the
> > rest of the desktop (which wasn't really the case with nodoka bubbles
> > and a clearlooks desktop).
>
> After I have seen them now I can say I think they are horrible. We could
> really argue if the Nodoka bubbles matched the rest of Nodoka, but this
> definitely matches even less.
>
> I think such changes shouldn't been done as a solo action without
> previous notice. Has the design team been aked about this? (No, Matthias
> and Jon, you are *not* the design team, sorry). Or people from the
> desktop SIG? How about other contributors?
The design team is busy doing backgrounds.
You are busy, the design team is busy. What's the difference? We are all
busy at this time of the development cycle I guess.
We _are_ doing the design of the desktop spin, whether you like it
or
not. Just like I expect you to do the design of the Xfce spin, and the
KDE team to do the design of their product.
I do the design of the Xfce Spin, but I do it different. I'm not making
changes without asking for feedback and announcing the changes. When I
introduced Nodoka for xfwm4, I did that because I was asked to do it. I
posted the result to the mailing lists and *then* made the change. This
is a fundamentally different from your solo actions. The order DOES
matter, even if Jon says that nothing ever is final.
> IMHO this change is also very ungrateful to Martin, who does an
amazing
> job with the Nodoka theme.
Yes, he is doing a great job with the Nodoka theme.
How does that imply that we are ungrateful by not sticking with it
forever ?
By making a decision without asking the people involved. And Martin
definitely is one of these people. Please give him and the rest of the
community a chance respond to the problems you have with his/their work.
Thanks,
Christoph