On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 08:39 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 09/12/2014 08:27 AM, Donald Buchan wrote:
> I suspect that while the technical merits of removing LO from a
> default install have their place (ie. large image size, quicker
> downloads, less update server load, it can be easily discovered in
> and installed from the repos, there are popular alternatives like
> cloud suites and alternatives, etc. etc. etc.) it's a major set of
> packages, *for me*, and I suspect for a significant proportion of
> users, even if a minority (in which case I concede that that would
> be a further reason to consider its removal.)
From my perspective, the point of offering a Live Media instead of a
pure installer is so that people can run Fedora and do something
actually useful on it without having to clobber their existing system
at first. (The try-before-you-buy scenario)
Certainly from the "try before you buy" scenario then I personally would
wonder (
http://www.malak.ca/blog/?p=227 ) why it would be missing.
Someone else, maybe not, who knows? (Hence why I think that a killer
app or suite of apps would still be needed, regardless of what they
are.)
We really need to figure out (ideally through user testing), what
are
the tasks that people would want to do before they install Fedora to
their local system.
(snip)
I was starting to think that after I'd sent my message.
And if LO proves to be wanted by a sufficient minority and removing it
would be considered "a good thing", then as I said I personally would
have no difficulty installing it on my own anyway. (In any case, I'm a
more general-use case user and don't fall into the target developper
audience, and I have sufficient technical savvy to tailor my system to
what I want it to do.)
> Oh, here's one more technical reason to remove it, or at
least
> modify how it's installed: Although I know that there is a common
> codebase to the various parts, what about installing LO piece-meal?
> I use Write and Calc all the time. I have used Impress in the past
> but in the past three or four years I've used it perhaps three
> times. I've never used Base, Draw, Math or Charts since starting
> to use
OpenOffice.org in 2005.
>
I just performed a little test. Removing Base, Draw, Math and Charts
from my installed machine saves a whopping 6.3MB. Even if we try to
account for a few different dependencies, the savings are negligible.
The vast majority of disk space is taken up by libreoffice-core (241MB
on its own) and its dependencies.
Thanks!