On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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On 01/29/2014 08:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 04:59 -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
>>> 2) What is the actual deliverable and delivery mechanism for
>>> Workstation?
>>>
>>> This is asking how we intend to ship the Workstation product.
>>> ISO, live USB image, something else?
>>
>> There is no plan to change this from what has been the primary
>> delivery methods of Fedora so far. That said I think the emphasis
>> will need to change where a USB sticks is the primary medium and
>> DVDs the secondary.
>
> Two notes in this regard:
>
> 1) If we are going the USB way (which I think is the way to go as
> many laptops are removing CD/DVD and we also save some trees in
> the meantime), we should look at ways to improve the USB creation
> experience and documetnation wrt to the current state. I would make
> it a priority to focus on making it specially easy for Windows and
> Mac OS X users.
>
> 2) I would remove the DVD install-only option. Focusing only the
> installable Live media. The reason for this suggestion is that it
> would remove the amount of media we have to test and release and
> that it will reduce that confusing choice for users (if you're new
> it's hard to figure out which option is best or whether it matters
> at all).
>
I'd be very wary of doing this. The big problem with the live install
option is that it's highly limited in the storage configurations it
can use. There will certainly be users out there who will want to
install Fedora Workstation on systems with complicated storage setups.
The live media probably won't work for them.
How relevant to Workstation is that? I can see Server wanting to deal
with iSCSI and all kinds of other weird storage technology, but for
Workstation I'm not sure that's the case.
Also, in terms of delivering a stable and "best of class" _product_,
I'm not sure allowing people to tweak their install to have 32
partitions with f2fs as / and /home as btrfs with subvolumes is all
that great. I'm not saying those things shouldn't be possible, but I
am wondering if the Workstation deliverable is really the place to
have those.
An option however would be to provide a single USB image that
provides
both the live image and the install-only image, selectable at GRUB
(defaulting to booting into the live image).
Possibly.
> It might be worth keeping the DVD somewhere but I wouldn't
keep it
> as a visible way to install the workstation product.
I really dislike the DVD overall. Particularly when it comes to a
product setup. Unless the DVD becomes "install Workstation, or
Server, or Cloud" (or some combination thereof), then I see no point
in continuing it as it is today.
josh