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I think to get this discussion back on track I think we all need to
remind
ourselves that
we are not shipping GNOME, nor are we shipping any of the thousand other
pieces of software
that we have rpms for. We are shipping the Fedora Workstation, that is our
product here.
So there are of course a lot of components in there which have new versions
since the last
release, but for our users that is an implementation detail at the end of the
day.
So what we want to do here is decide on how to build the identity and brand
of the Fedora
Workstation, and we need to start with defining what our goals with that
effort is. Once
we have those goals we can look into which pieces of software needs to change
to accommodate
those goals and those pieces might come from a long range of upstream
projects be that bash,
plymouth, GNOME, grub and so on and so forth.
I realize that it is hard to completely decouple the principle discussion
with the implementation
details, which is why so many times in the past we managed to derail
ourselves into endless flamewars
about where to put a logo and how big it should be, but if we want to fix
this and avoid revisiting
this topic again and again while growing more and more frustrated, we need to
agree on the overall goals
here first and then work our way down the stack.
So to try to make a start I think what we want on a general level is things
that makes someone looking at
a Fedora Workstation screen or screenshot instantly recognize it as that. The
goal of that being develop
a distinct Fedora Workstation identity and to ensure that every Fedora user
becomes a Fedora ambassador.
At
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/DownstreamBranding you'll find the start of
lists for downstream branding possibilities. If you know of other branding
used in distributions, or new ideas, please feel free to add those (or mail me
privately if you don't have a GNOME Wiki account).
Cheers