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On 09/12/2014 09:26 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 08:39:54AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On 09/12/2014 08:27 AM, Donald Buchan wrote:
>> I suspect that while the technical merits of removing LO from
>> a default install have their place (ie. large image size,
>> quicker downloads, less update server load, it can be easily
>> discovered in and installed from the repos, there are popular
>> alternatives like cloud suites and alternatives, etc. etc.
>> etc.) it's a major set of packages, *for me*, and I suspect for
>> a significant proportion of users, even if a minority (in which
>> case I concede that that would be a further reason to consider
>> its removal.)
>
> - From my perspective, the point of offering a Live Media instead
> of a pure installer is so that people can run Fedora and do
> something actually useful on it without having to clobber their
> existing system at first. (The try-before-you-buy scenario)
>
> We really need to figure out (ideally through user testing), what
> are the tasks that people would want to do before they install
> Fedora to their local system. I'd strongly argue that the most
> basic set of tasks would be:
>
> 1) Browse the internet 2) Check my email 3) Read/Write office
> documents 4) Use instant messaging (Google Hangouts, Facebook
> messenger)
>
> For Fedora contributors, I might also add 4) Connect to IRC
>
>
>> Oh, here's one more technical reason to remove it, or at least
>> modify how it's installed: Although I know that there is a
>> common codebase to the various parts, what about installing LO
>> piece-meal? I use Write and Calc all the time. I have used
>> Impress in the past but in the past three or four years I've
>> used it perhaps three times. I've never used Base, Draw, Math
>> or Charts since starting to use
OpenOffice.org in 2005.
>>
>
> I just performed a little test. Removing Base, Draw, Math and
> Charts from my installed machine saves a whopping 6.3MB. Even if
> we try to account for a few different dependencies, the savings
> are negligible.
>
> The vast majority of disk space is taken up by libreoffice-core
> (241MB on its own) and its dependencies.
The utility argument seems pretty strong to me. Also, I believe
deltarpm is still enabled by default in installations, correct?
That would tend to cut down on size of updates to download.
Deltarpms help only for updates. No matter what, you need to download
the full package at least the first time.
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