Well hopefully we will be able to alleviate this worries as time goes on, but the problem
is that Fedora up to now have been trying to reach 'everyone', but have instead
ended up reaching 'no one', just try putting a term like 'Fedora linux'
into a google trends search.
We have to start somewhere and getting developers onto the platform is step one, we can as
said in other emails start looking at broadening the scope as time goes by, but trying to
start out by adding everyone's favorite user segment quickly puts us back in the land
if no focus.
In general though I wouldn't be to worried about a tons of programming language
specific stuff filling your system, people defining themselves as developers doesn't
really want 5 tons worth of stuff they never use either. So instead we are building tools
like the Developer Assistant which will make it easier for developer to install the tools
they do want and need, as opposed to trying to preload the system with every development
tool under the sky. So the developer focus will more take the form of having a couple of
items available like the Developer Assistant that makes installing development tools and
scenarios easier and working on features like improved terminal handling and so on, as it
is a much wanted developer request.
So that is the nature of the developer focus, working on features and tools for
developers, not automatically installing 500 different IDEs as that wouldn't work for
anyone either :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Volovics" <a.volovic(a)upcmail.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:27:53 AM
Subject: Re: Updated Fedora Workstation PRD draft
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:47:22AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 11/26/2013 07:42 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
> It seems to me the same goals could be accomplished by making
> a "barebones", excellent quality 'base' Fedora and then having
> a 'development group', a 'server group', a 'cloud group',
> an 'other users group', etc.., of app packages that the user can
> add to this 'base' Fedora as needed.
I think the 'other users' will be covered by the spins. For
'Design Suite' spin isn't going anywhere - that has Gimp, Inkscape,
Blender, and a bunch of other stuff targeted at digital artists. Just
because the main workstation doesn't target digital artists doesn't mean
it won't be usable for them, and I intend to continue using Fedora for a
workstation to use that kind of software.
I too intend to continue using Fedora.
But specifically targeting "developers" could have consequences:
- Fedora is perceived as a 'for developers only' distribution.
This might result in less people willing to package "other"
software for Fedora.
- Users like you or me might find that Fedora contains about
20% stuff related to development infrastructure and libraries
that we will never use and that we might not be able to remove.
From our standpoint 'bloat' with acompanying security problems,
updates and bugs.
(For example now in Fed19 I find 81 items related to Perl.
I don't use Perl and are all these items really necessary
for running a base Fedora system).
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