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2026-08-31 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 45 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 30 Aug '26

30 Aug '26

# F45 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2026-08-31 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for another Fedora 45 blocker review meeting! We have 1 proposed blocker and 3 proposed freeze exceptions for Beta, and 1 proposed blocker for Final. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+43+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F45 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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2026-08-25 Workstation Working Group Meeting Summary
by Michael Catanzaro 26 Aug '26

26 Aug '26

Hi, here is my Gemini-assisted summary for this week's meeting. • *Meeting Administration and Chair Rotation*: The working group discussed the process for chairing and secretarial duties, noting that information regarding the rotation schedule is not currently maintained in a central document or wiki. Michael Catanzaro indicated that documentation for special roles exists but does not document the rotation schedule, which has not been followed consistently due to scheduling conflicts. • *Review of Meeting Agenda and Pending Tasks*: The group reviewed the issue tracker and noted that no specific tickets were currently tagged for the meeting. • *Discussion on Showtime and Upstream Relations*: The group addressed recent tension regarding the Showtime project, which involved the restriction of bug reporting for Fedora users. Michael Catanzaro explained that the issue was resolved after the maintainer reverted changes to the issue report template. However, the group discussed the broader implications, noting that the incident reflected ongoing challenges regarding expectations of labor from upstream volunteers and the relationship between Fedora, Red Hat, and the GNOME community. • *Review of Issue 514 - Power Off in Initial Setup*: Allan Day introduced issue 514, which involves adding a power-off option to the initial setup screen. The group identified this as a non-controversial, low-hanging fruit task that could be implemented easily. • *Review of Issue 507 - Automatically Update AppStream Data*: The group discussed the status of automating AppStream metadata updates. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) explained that automation requires replacing existing tooling, as the current software, asgen, relies on Debian-specific structural assumptions that are incompatible with Fedora and RPM-based repository architectures. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) noted that a gap analysis is required before progress can be made. • *Issue Tracker Interface Difficulties*: Matthias Clasen reported technical issues with the forge website, specifically that the interface displayed zero open issues for tags that were known to contain content. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) attributed these intermittent failures to the platform and advised refreshing the page until the data displayed correctly. • *Review of Issue - Language and Keyboard Setup in Initial Setup*: Michael Catanzaro stated that the task to integrate language and keyboard layout settings into the GNOME Initial Setup is currently stalled. Michael Catanzaro noted that they do not anticipate completing this work before their departure from Red Hat at the end of the year. • *Review of Issue - Future of Rust Package Maintenance*: The group discussed the "Future of Rust package maintenance" ticket. Matthias Clasen noted that while the group needs to coordinate better with the maintainer, Fabio, positive progress has been observed through effective engagement by Milan. • *Review of Issue - GNOME Software Third-Party Repositories*: The group reviewed a request to add a button in GNOME Software that would allow users to enable third-party repositories even if they had previously declined the option. Michael Catanzaro noted that Allan Day's design is currently awaiting a response to questions posed by Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo). • *Bazaar App Store and Fedora Integration*: The group discussed Bazaar, a Flatpak-only app store that is now part of GNOME Circle, and its potential to replace GNOME Software. Participants noted that while Bazaar is gaining momentum, Fedora currently cannot enable Flathub by default due to FESCo policy, which would limit the app store's utility for Fedora users. • *Bazaar Development Stalls*: Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) reported that the integration of Bazaar into Fedora has stalled because the original contributor, Kyle, stopped responding to review requests. The group concluded that any further movement on this inclusion would require another contributor to pick up the review process. • *Long-Term Strategy for Flatpak Migration*: Allan Day raised concerns regarding the lack of a clear, unified strategy for Flatpak distribution in Fedora. The group debated the risks of falling behind by relying on older software while other projects adopt newer tools, with Matthias Clasen noting that this is a recurring challenge when working within an enterprise Linux environment. • *Failure of Current Flatpak Strategy*: Michael Catanzaro stated that the current Flatpak strategy has failed, citing an inability to reach an agreement with the Flathub community regarding safety and maintenance standards. Michael Catanzaro noted that diplomacy efforts have not resulted in the necessary changes to make Flathub suitable for Fedora by default. • *User Experience and System Integrity Concerns*: Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) emphasized that their primary requirement for Flatpak integration is maintaining user control over permissions and repository settings. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) noted that GNOME has not implemented the requested features for Flatpak management, leading to a suboptimal user experience. • *Future of Software Delivery and Vendor Repositories*: Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) observed that third-party vendors are increasingly shipping their own Flatpak remotes rather than using Flathub, which effectively bypasses the central distribution policy issues that have hindered Fedora's progress. • *Fedora Flatpak Repository Filtering Status*: The group confirmed that there is a standing agreement to filter the Fedora Flatpak repository, but no active work is being performed. Michael Catanzaro clarified that this work remains blocked by the pending GNOME Software redesign, a condition accepted by the working group. • *Coordination with Upstream Design Teams*: The group discussed the importance of engaging with upstream design teams to ensure that new software centers can accommodate specific Fedora requirements, such as enabling third-party repositories and managing multiple repository sources. • *Repository Branching and Version Management*: The group held a technical discussion regarding the ability of potential future software centers to handle multiple repository versions. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) noted that supporting stable, beta, and nightly version streams is critical for Fedora users, and they will need to investigate if Bazaar or other solutions can handle these requirements. • *Review of Issue - xvfb-run Replacement*: The group addressed the final ticket regarding replacing `xvfb-run` with `wl-headless-run`. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) agreed to review the ticket, noting that previous discussions suggested the task might not require action for GNOME packages, and offered to close it if appropriate. • *Meeting Conclusion and Scheduling*: The group concluded the meeting with the arrangement that Allan Day will chair the next session and provide an agenda. It was confirmed that for September, Matthias Clasen will be the secretary, and Michael Catanzaro will serve as the backup secretary.

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2026-08-24 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 45 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 23 Aug '26

23 Aug '26

# F45 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2026-08-24 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for the first Fedora 44 blocker review meeting! We have 3 proposed blockers and 3 proposed freeze exceptions for Beta. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+43+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F45 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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2026-08-18 Workstation Working Group Meeting Summary
by Michael Catanzaro 18 Aug '26

18 Aug '26

Hi, here is my Gemini-assisted summary for this week's meeting. • *Meeting Logistics and Introductions*: Michael Catanzaro confirmed a quorum was met with five members present, noting that Matthias was on paid time off and Jens was absent. • *Removal of GNOME Boxes from Default Installation*: The group discussed a proposal to remove GNOME Boxes from the default installation. Michael Catanzaro clarified that users would still be able to install the application via Flatpak or the RPM package, as the intent is to remove it from the default set rather than retiring the package entirely. Luna Jernberg noted that users requiring a virtual machine manager would possess the knowledge to install the software independently. • *Status of GNOME Connections*: Allan Day inquired about the status of GNOME Connections to determine if it should also be removed given its similarity to GNOME Boxes. Michael Catanzaro confirmed that GNOME Connections is a standard core application and is included in the default workstation configuration. The group agreed that GNOME Connections should remain and did not propose its removal. • *Future Risks of GNOME Boxes Removal*: Neal Gompa expressed concern regarding potential future complications if the package were to be forcefully retired by upstream, which could cause issues for users upgrading Fedora. Michael Catanzaro clarified that the current decision is specifically to remove it from the default installation, acknowledging that the move involves both technical and political considerations. • *Marketing Strategy Regarding GNOME Boxes*: The group discussed the impact of removing GNOME Boxes on Fedora Workstation marketing materials. Neal Gompa argued that the website should be updated to clarify that the software is not pre-installed, to avoid creating false expectations. Allan Day suggested adjusting the website language to indicate the tool is recommended but not included, to which Neal Gompa agreed. • *Timeline for GNOME Boxes Removal*: Michael Catanzaro and Neal Gompa noted that the GNOME upstream schedule for version 51 had already passed, meaning there was no immediate rush to implement the removal. Luna Jernberg remarked that this effectively delays the necessary action until version 52. • *Removal of PyCharm from Third-Party Repositories*: The group discussed a request to remove PyCharm from the Fedora Workstation third-party repositories. Fabio proposed the removal because the Community Edition no longer exists as a separate codebase, has not been updated in over a year, and is effectively a free trial version. Neal Gompa confirmed there is no separate codebase to rewrap, and the group approved the proposal to drop it. • *Technical Consequences of PyCharm Removal*: Allan Day asked about the status of existing PyCharm installations if the repository is removed. Michael Catanzaro and Neal Gompa explained that existing installations would stop receiving updates, as there is no mechanism to automatically uninstall the application. The group discussed the potential of using Obsoletes to uninstall the package but decided against it, preferring not to take such an aggressive approach. • *Closing Administrative Matters*: Michael Catanzaro reviewed the state of the issue tracker, concluding that the team is successfully handling requests and that the backlog is in reasonable condition. The meeting concluded with a confirmation of the upcoming leadership rotation, where Allan Day is scheduled to serve as chair and Matthias is expected to serve as secretary for the following month.

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Tomorrows (Aug 11, 2026) Workstation WG meeting is cancelled
by Matthias Clasen 10 Aug '26

10 Aug '26

There's an internal Red Hat meeting that conflicts, so we won't have quorum.

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2026-08-04 Workstation Working Group Meeting Summary
by Michael Catanzaro 04 Aug '26

04 Aug '26

Hi all, Here are my Gemini-assisted minutes for this week's meeting. Details • Meeting Logistics: Matthias Clasen opened the meeting with an apology for a camera malfunction and confirmed that the group had reached a quorum after a brief discussion regarding the lapse since the previous meeting four weeks prior. • GNOME Software and System Updater Plans: Matthias Clasen shared information regarding upstream plans to replace GNOME Software with a more Flatpak-focused application installer, identified as Bazaar, and to implement a new system updater within gnome-control-center for GNOME OS. Matthias Clasen clarified that this is an early announcement for the GNOME 52 cycle or later and that Fedora would likely continue using GNOME Software for the time being. Michael Catanzaro raised a concern regarding the hosting of Bazaar, noting that GNOME core applications generally require hosting on gitlab.gnome.org, and Matthias Clasen confirmed that if the project were to be adopted, it would need to go through the standard incubator and approval process. • Action Dialogs and Button Positioning: Jiri Prajzner requested an update on the status of action dialog button positioning, noting that a ticket regarding the issue had received no response. Matthias Clasen reported discussing this topic at the design birds of a feather session at GUADEC and having directed Lukas to the design issue. They agreed that while not a critical error, the current button positioning is not universally preferred and could benefit from simplification or streamlining to ensure proper focus flow for users. • IBus Speech-to-Text Performance: Jiri Prajzner provided feedback on the IBus speech-to-text functionality, noting that the performance was slower than expected, with a delay of several seconds. Jiri Prajzner further noted that the command mode is not supported across all models and observed that the model remains loaded in memory even after the input method is removed, which they identified as a potential bug. Matthias Clasen and Jiri Prajzner agreed that the memory retention issue should be treated as a bug, and they discussed the need for Jiri Prajzner to create issues or pull requests to address the performance and functionality concerns. • IBus Setup and Model Availability: Jiri Prajzner and Jens-Ulrik Petersen discussed the user experience of setting up IBus, noting that while the process is generally straightforward, users face hurdles in downloading and selecting appropriate models as no default is provided. Jens-Ulrik Petersen acknowledged the difficulty of packaging models in Fedora due to the rapid pace of development and frequent updates, but suggested that providing an API or a curated list of tested models would be beneficial for the user experience. • Papers Package Updates: Matthias Clasen announced that the dependency issue previously preventing updates to the Papers package has been resolved upstream, which now allows for the packaging of the latest version without additional conflicts. • GUADEC Highlights: Matthias Clasen and Michael Catanzaro summarized the GUADEC conference, describing it as a standard but smaller event where no major decisions were finalized. The participants noted that the event was useful for in-person discussions, particularly regarding the integration of speech-to-text tools. • Boxes Application Updates: Jiri Prajzner and Michael Catanzaro discussed recent changes to the Boxes application, specifically that the updated version is designed to be Flatpak-only. Matthias Clasen mentioned having tested the new version and noted display issues on fractionally scaled screens, concluding that the update requires further polish and testing.

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