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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-13
by Chris Murphy 13 Sep '22

13 Sep '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-13) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 20:35:57 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-13/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Allan, Chris, Michael, Kalev, Matthias, Jens, Neal, Owen (brainycmurf, 20:36:20) * Guests: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * Regrets: Tomáš, Luna (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * gnome-contacts 43.rc is stuck, due to issues (brainycmurf, 20:36:25) * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/266 (brainycmurf, 20:36:27) * gnome 43 final, test week results (brainycmurf, 20:36:31) * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf, 20:36:33) * i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 20:36:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day (brainycmurf, 20:36:47) * F37 blocker bugs (brainycmurf, 20:36:57) * LINK: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist (brainycmurf, 20:36:59) * ACTION: Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue (brainycmurf, 20:37:19) * ACTION: Matthias to comment on the issue (brainycmurf, 20:37:36) * proposal to cover it under release criteria (brainycmurf, 20:37:41) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.o… (brainycmurf, 20:37:43) * ACTION: Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer (brainycmurf, 20:37:50) * ACTION: : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression (brainycmurf, 20:38:20) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 20:38:22) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 20:38:24) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 20:38:26) Meeting ended at 20:41:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue * Matthias to comment on the issue * Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer * : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue * Matthias to comment on the issue * Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer * : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (77) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work
by Adam Williamson 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 14:39 -0700, Scott Beamer wrote: > On 9/12/22 12:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey folks! > > > > So a bug came up at today's blocker review meeting: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868 > > > > it takes a minute to parse, but the tl;dr is that right now in Fedora > > 37, you can't go tohttps://extensions.gnome.org and install > > extensions. > > Actually, that's not true. You *can* install the few extensions that > have been updated for GNOME 43, but what you *can't* do is use any of > the other new functionality on extensions.gnome.org. They used to show > you what those functions were, but they were greyed out (IIRC, one of > them allowed you to disable compatibility checks so that you could > install any extension - broken or not). I don't recall what the other > one was, because the options are removed for anyone not on the current API. > > This message currently appears on the website with GNOME 42 in Fedora 36 > and 37. > > "Your native host connector do not support following APIs: v6. Probably > you should upgrade native host connector or install plugins for missing > APIs. Referdocumentation > <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShellIntegrationForChrome/Installation>for > instructions." Oh, yes, you're right. That does make the bug less critical indeed. I guess it happened to be the case that none of the three or four random extensions I tested with is updated to 43, so that's why I thought the bug prevented installing them... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-09-13 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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Fwd: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week
by Luna Jernberg 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

and Fedora with GNOME ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:54:21 +0200 Subject: Fwd: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week To: droidbittin(a)gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:54:02 +0200 Subject: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week To: neon <neon(a)kde.org>, kde <kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, kde-devel <kde-devel(a)kde.org>, kde <kde(a)lists.opensuse.org>, kde <kde(a)kde.org>, kde-community <kde-community(a)kde.org>, kde-promo <kde-promo(a)kde.org>, kubuntu-devel <kubuntu-devel(a)lists.ubuntu.com>, kubuntu-users <kubuntu-users(a)lists.ubuntu.com> https://linuxunplugged.com/475 KDE Talk in this weeks LUP

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Workstation WG meeting, 13 September (secretary: Tomáš)
by Allan Day 10 Sep '22

10 Sep '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 13 September, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic F37 release status #topic i18n test day results #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation.2…

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2022-09-12 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 10 Sep '22

10 Sep '22

# F36 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2022-09-12 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 6 proposed Final blockers and 6 proposed Final freeze exceptions to review, so let's have a review meeting. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fwd: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06
by Luna Jernberg 07 Sep '22

07 Sep '22

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 21:27:15 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06 To: droidbittin(a)gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 21:27:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06 To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, lists(a)colorremedies.com, list(a)colorremedies.com, cmurf <cmurf(a)fedoraproject.org>, Allan Day <aday(a)redhat.com>, catanzaro <catanzaro(a)fedoraproject.org>, Luna Jernberg <bittin(a)fedoraproject.org>, droidbittin(a)gmail.com, kalevlember <kalevlember(a)gmail.com>, Sumantro Mukherjee <sumukher(a)redhat.com>, Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org>, For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Did some GNOME 43 RC 1 testing earlier this evening On 9/7/22, Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Read the logs now, as i was at a Red Hat conference in Stockholm i > missed the meeting > Will miss the meeting next week too as i have private stuff to attend, > will be back in 2-3 weeks > > On 9/7/22, Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> wrote: >> ============================================== >> #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-06) >> ============================================== >> >> >> Meeting started by brainycmurf at 01:10:39 UTC. The full logs are >> available at >> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation.2… >> . >> >> >> >> Meeting summary >> --------------- >> * Present members: Tom, Kalev, Chris, Matthias, Michael, Neal >> (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) >> * Guests: Maira (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) >> * Regrets: Owen, Jens (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) >> * Missing: (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) >> * Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) >> * Progress check on workstation blocker issues (brainycmurf, 01:10:53) >> >> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111025 (gnome-shell) >> (brainycmurf, 01:10:55) >> * LINK: >> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2436 has >> been merged, so the issues should be fixed upstream (brainycmurf, >> 01:10:57) >> >> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110 >> (gnome-initial-setup) (brainycmurf, 01:11:00) >> >> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111003 (gnome-contacts) >> (brainycmurf, 01:11:04) >> >> * [abrt] totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT - >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 (brainycmurf, >> 01:11:08) >> >> * Unable to set up enterprise account with gnome-initial-setup due to >> missing buttons - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494 >> (brainycmurf, 01:11:17) >> >> * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 01:11:30) >> * Kalev is nearly done with the GNOME 43 RC packages. We'll have the >> important ones for the test day. (brainycmurf, 01:11:32) >> >> * GNOME 43 RC test day: (brainycmurf, 01:11:35) >> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/705 (brainycmurf, >> 01:11:37) >> * LINK: >> >> https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-i18n-release-validation-crypto… >> (brainycmurf, 01:11:43) >> * Will try to get the wiki updated so it shows #fedora-workstation for >> the discussion during test day (week). (brainycmurf, 01:11:46) >> * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf, >> 01:11:49) >> * ACTION: Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it >> down into groups and indicate priorities (brainycmurf, 01:11:57) >> >> * i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 01:12:00) >> * LINK: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day >> (brainycmurf, 01:12:02) >> >> * Release blocking criteria for preinstalled apps (brainycmurf, >> 01:12:06) >> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, >> 01:12:08) >> >> * Future of dual booting Windows and Fedora (brainycmurf, 01:12:37) >> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/278 (brainycmurf, >> 01:12:39) >> * ACTION: Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties >> (brainycmurf, 01:12:46) >> >> * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 01:12:48) >> * Cannot switch to Boot Options on reboot (brainycmurf, 01:12:50) >> * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124043 >> (brainycmurf, 01:12:52) >> * gnome-info-collect released, Fedora Magazine covered it >> (brainycmurf, 01:12:54) >> * LINK: >> >> https://fedoramagazine.org/help-improve-gnome-using-gnome-info-collect/ >> (brainycmurf, 01:12:56) >> * Neal has a PoC to get H264 properly installed and Anaconda properly >> uninstalled on first boot. (brainycmurf, 01:12:58) >> * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-autofirstboot (brainycmurf, >> 01:13:01) >> * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, >> 01:13:03) >> * LINK: >> >> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-08-30/workstation.2… >> (brainycmurf, 01:13:05) >> >> Meeting ended at 01:14:14 UTC. >> >> >> >> >> Action Items >> ------------ >> * Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down into >> groups and indicate priorities >> * Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties >> >> >> >> >> Action Items, by person >> ----------------------- >> * Allan >> * Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down >> into groups and indicate priorities >> * Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties >> * **UNASSIGNED** >> * (none) >> >> >> >> >> People Present (lines said) >> --------------------------- >> * brainycmurf (62) >> * zodbot (7) >> * Allan (0) >> >> >> >> >> Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 >> >> .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions >> _______________________________________________ >> desktop mailing list -- desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.o… >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> >

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-06
by Chris Murphy 07 Sep '22

07 Sep '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-06) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 01:10:39 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Tom, Kalev, Chris, Matthias, Michael, Neal (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) * Guests: Maira (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) * Regrets: Owen, Jens (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) * Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 01:10:52) * Progress check on workstation blocker issues (brainycmurf, 01:10:53) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111025 (gnome-shell) (brainycmurf, 01:10:55) * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2436 has been merged, so the issues should be fixed upstream (brainycmurf, 01:10:57) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110 (gnome-initial-setup) (brainycmurf, 01:11:00) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111003 (gnome-contacts) (brainycmurf, 01:11:04) * [abrt] totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 (brainycmurf, 01:11:08) * Unable to set up enterprise account with gnome-initial-setup due to missing buttons - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494 (brainycmurf, 01:11:17) * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 01:11:30) * Kalev is nearly done with the GNOME 43 RC packages. We'll have the important ones for the test day. (brainycmurf, 01:11:32) * GNOME 43 RC test day: (brainycmurf, 01:11:35) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/705 (brainycmurf, 01:11:37) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-i18n-release-validation-crypto… (brainycmurf, 01:11:43) * Will try to get the wiki updated so it shows #fedora-workstation for the discussion during test day (week). (brainycmurf, 01:11:46) * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf, 01:11:49) * ACTION: Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down into groups and indicate priorities (brainycmurf, 01:11:57) * i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 01:12:00) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day (brainycmurf, 01:12:02) * Release blocking criteria for preinstalled apps (brainycmurf, 01:12:06) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 01:12:08) * Future of dual booting Windows and Fedora (brainycmurf, 01:12:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/278 (brainycmurf, 01:12:39) * ACTION: Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties (brainycmurf, 01:12:46) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 01:12:48) * Cannot switch to Boot Options on reboot (brainycmurf, 01:12:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124043 (brainycmurf, 01:12:52) * gnome-info-collect released, Fedora Magazine covered it (brainycmurf, 01:12:54) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/help-improve-gnome-using-gnome-info-collect/ (brainycmurf, 01:12:56) * Neal has a PoC to get H264 properly installed and Anaconda properly uninstalled on first boot. (brainycmurf, 01:12:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-autofirstboot (brainycmurf, 01:13:01) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 01:13:03) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-08-30/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 01:13:05) Meeting ended at 01:14:14 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down into groups and indicate priorities * Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties Action Items, by person ----------------------- * Allan * Allan will discuss the wiki page with Sumantro, breaking it down into groups and indicate priorities * Allan to set up a separate call with interested parties * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (62) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 05 Sep '22

05 Sep '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-09-06 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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2022-09-06 (TUESDAY) @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 04 Sep '22

04 Sep '22

# F36 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2022-09-06 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 1 proposed Beta blocker, 3 proposed Beta freeze exceptions, and 1 proposed Final blocker to review, so let's have a review meeting. As tomorrow (Monday) is a holiday in North America, we'll do the meeting on **TUESDAY**, September 6. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good long weekend and see you Tuesday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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