desktop November 2018

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17 discussions

What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?
by Owen Taylor 29 Nov '18

29 Nov '18

One of the key parts of making a decision to delay/skip F31 is figuring out, ahead of the decision, what the expected experience is for users and packagers. Does F30 have normal stability, or do we try to keep users happy by moving things forward with ad-hoc updates and cross-our-fingers and hope nothing breaks? I tend to think about this in terms of GNOME - would we rebase to GNOME 3.34 in the middle of F30 or not? But there's a lot of other pieces of software where similar considerations apply: container tools, cockpit, NetworkManager, etc. And if we did do updates like that, would we consider respinning media and making a "F30.1"? Owen

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Integrating howdy, a Windows Hello like into GDM?
by Luya Tshimbalanga 29 Nov '18

29 Nov '18

Hello team, Since owning the HP Envy x360 Convertible from last month, with the help of both Hans and Peter Hutterer, we managed to improve a better touchscreen and stylus experience on that hardware. As written on my blog (https://blog.thefinalzone.net/2018/11/enable-stylus-settings-on-hp-envy-x36…) it would be nice to integrate a Windows Hello type authentication into the login screen similar to Windows 10 or Samsung Galaxy S9 series using iris authentication. I have already packaged in the COPR repository (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/luya/howdy/) and would like much help to further improve the changes while carrying them upstream (https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy) before submitting for packaging review. Additionally, setting a nice user interface instead of cli would be great for an overall better user experience. The benefit is great for both Fedora and GNOME (other desktop environments are welcome to contribute) for providing an alternate way of authentication. Feedback and suggestion welcome. Luya

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Silverblue APAC Meeting Minutes 2018-11-27
by Sinny Kumari 27 Nov '18

27 Nov '18

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-27/team_silverbl… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-27/team_silverbl… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-27/team_silverbl… ======================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Team Silverblue APAC ======================================= Meeting started by ksinny at 05:31:36 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-27/team_silverbl… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (ksinny, 05:31:47) * Action items from last meeting (ksinny, 05:34:07) * cancel IRC meetings in favor of Discourse (ksinny, 05:36:42) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-26/silverblue.20… (ksinny, 05:37:04) * LINK: Silverblue Discourse - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/desktop/silverblue (ksinny, 05:39:01) * AGREED: Cancel Silverblue APAC meeting in the favour of Discourse (ksinny, 05:48:39) * We will try usingDiscourse, if it doesn't work we will rstart Silverblue APAC IRC meeeting (ksinny, 05:49:16) * Open Floor (ksinny, 05:49:41) * Building Flatpak using Fedora rpm https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/flatpak/tutorial/ (ksinny, 05:51:26) Meeting ended at 05:53:08 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * ksinny (47) * paragan (12) * zodbot (11) * bhavin192 (9) * csirac2 (1) * sayan (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Integrating howdy, a Windows Hello like into GDM?
by Luya Tshimbalanga 26 Nov '18

26 Nov '18

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Silverblue APAC
by sinnykumari＠fedoraproject.org 26 Nov '18

26 Nov '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Silverblue APAC on 2018-11-27 from 05:30:00 to 06:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Fedora Silverblue is an rpm-ostree-based Fedora desktop edition. This meeting has been kept in APAC friendly timezone for folks interested in working on making Silverblue better. Issue tracker - https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issues More information available at: [https://teamsilverblue.org/](https://teamsilverblue.org/) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9315/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Silverblue
by sanja＠redhat.com 25 Nov '18

25 Nov '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Silverblue on 2018-11-26 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Fedora Silverblue IRC meeting in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. Fedora Silverblue is an rpm-ostree-based Fedora desktop edition. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9304/

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[Test Days] Call for F30 Test Days
by Sumantro Mukherjee 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Hey All, Another testing cycle is finally upon us, and it's about time we got some Test Days scheduled/planned for the F30 cycle. This cycle has major changes and could use some testing love - a full list can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/30/ChangeSet F30 also has several self-contained changes that could use some testing. So my thought was if there were things people would like to get tested, but didn't think it warranted an entire day - then we could group these together and run a test day to poke at several different things at the same time. For those of you not familiar with test days, a test day is an online event aimed at testing a specific a feature of an upcoming Fedora Release.By utilizing IRC for organization/coordination and a Wiki page for instructions and results, test days are easy to organize. Anyone can request to host a test day or request that the QA team help you out with the organization of the test day. A test day can run for any feature or area of a distribution that focused testing would be useful for. More information on test days can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days To propose a test day, file an issue on Pagure[ https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues] with F30 as Milestone. A full explanation can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Create The SOP for hosting a test day is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management If you have any questions about test days or the process, please don't hesitate to contact me or any other QA Team member in #fedora-qa on Freenode or respond on the test list. Thanks and happy testing! Thanks //sumantro freenode : sumantro

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2018-Nov-19
by mcatanzaro＠gnome.org 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

Unfortunately this meeting was cancelled due to lack of quorum! Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-19/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-19/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-19/workstation.2… ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by mcatanzaro at 14:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-19/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (mcatanzaro, 14:00:41) Meeting ended at 14:12:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mcatanzaro (12) * zodbot (8) * juhp (4) * bcotton (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 17 Nov '18

17 Nov '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2018-11-19 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Monday Jun 18 - Michael Catanzaro * Monday Jul 02 - (deferred) * Monday Jul 16 - Matthias Clasen * Monday Jul 30 - Rex Dieter * Monday Aug 13 - (deferred, Flock) * Monday Aug 27 - Paul Frields * Monday Sep 10 - Kalev Lember * Monday Sep 24 - Ryan Lerch * Monday Oct 08 - Jens Petersen * Monday Oct 22 - Christian Schaller * Monday Nov 05 - Owen Taylor More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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Silverblue APAC Meeting Minutes 2018-11-13
by Sinny Kumari 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-13/team_silverbl… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-13/team_silverbl… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-13/team_silverbl… ======================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Team Silverblue APAC ======================================= Meeting started by ksinny at 05:31:29 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-11-13/team_silverbl… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (ksinny, 05:31:44) * Verification Link for Silveblue 29 Doesn't Work (ksinny, 05:35:01) * LINK: https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issue/53 (ksinny, 05:35:09) * ACTION: bhavin192 will work on a fix for issue https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issue/53 (ksinny, 05:46:21) * Fedora 29 Silverblue tryout experience (ksinny, 05:46:49) * Open Floor (ksinny, 05:52:25) Meeting ended at 06:00:05 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bhavin192 will work on a fix for issue https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issue/53 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bhavin192 * bhavin192 will work on a fix for issue https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issue/53 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * ksinny (49) * prakashmishra (18) * zodbot (12) * itblaked (6) * bhavin192 (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Silverblue APAC
by sinnykumari＠fedoraproject.org 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Silverblue APAC on 2018-11-13 from 05:30:00 to 06:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Fedora Silverblue is an rpm-ostree-based Fedora desktop edition. This meeting has been kept in APAC friendly timezone for folks interested in working on making Silverblue better. Issue tracker - https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issues More information available at: [https://teamsilverblue.org/](https://teamsilverblue.org/) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9315/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Silverblue
by sanja＠redhat.com 11 Nov '18

11 Nov '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Silverblue on 2018-11-12 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Fedora Silverblue IRC meeting in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. Fedora Silverblue is an rpm-ostree-based Fedora desktop edition. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9304/

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Camera won't mount in Workstation
by Chris Murphy 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

A camera set to either Auto or MTP mode won't mount in Fedora Workstation. Near as I can tell, the problem is with mtp-probe. But I guess it could be kernel confusion. I've posted a message on the libmtp list but no replies: https://sourceforge.net/p/libmtp/mailman/message/36458309/ The sequence looks like the kernel correctly discovers the make, model, serial number correctly but not that it's an MTP device. Something gives up and causes it to be disconnected. And then when it immediately reconnects it's now recognized as a USB Charger which is not correct, and also not an MTP device. The work around for this is to install fuse-exfat from RPM Fusion, and set the camera to Mass Storage setting, and now the storage card is directly mounted automatically. So this isn't a show stopper bug, but I'd say it's suboptimal for showcasing free software. Using MTP obviates the need for the host directly mounting the storage card's file system, and it's also safer. Any next step ideas? -- Chris Murphy

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3rd party repo inclusion
by Damian Ivanov 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hello, I want to ask about the legal status of including 3rd party repositories and have them enabled by default (but no software from it preinstalled) in a Fedora Remix. Especially I am looking at rpmfusion (including -tainted). Fedora does currently ship with disabled rpmfusion[steam, nvidia], Google-Chrome and Flathub which includes VLC. Thanks, Damian

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2018-Jul-30
by Owen Taylor 05 Nov '18

05 Nov '18

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-05/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-05/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-05/workstation.2… ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by otaylor at 14:01:21 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-05/workstation.2… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (otaylor, 14:01:34) * LUKS by default - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 (otaylor, 14:10:48) * AGREED: check the encryption checkbox in anaconda by default (+5; 0; 0) (otaylor, 14:21:49) * ACTION: otaylor to summarize follow-up items and discussion into the issue (otaylor, 14:22:06) * Default disk partitioning layout for Workstation - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/54 (otaylor, 14:27:53) * AGREED: For F30, change the default partitioning for workstation to no LVM, unified / (separate /boot, swap) (+5; 0; 0) (otaylor, 14:53:13) Meeting ended at 14:58:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ * otaylor to summarize follow-up items and discussion into the issue Action Items, by person ----------------------- * otaylor * otaylor to summarize follow-up items and discussion into the issue * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * otaylor (65) * mcatanzaro (27) * juhp (20) * zodbot (15) * ryanlerch (13) * sgallagh (12) * aday (11) * cschalle (6) * bcotton (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 03 Nov '18

03 Nov '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2018-11-05 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Monday Jun 18 - Michael Catanzaro * Monday Jul 02 - (deferred) * Monday Jul 16 - Matthias Clasen * Monday Jul 30 - Rex Dieter * Monday Aug 13 - (deferred, Flock) * Monday Aug 27 - Paul Frields * Monday Sep 10 - Kalev Lember * Monday Sep 24 - Ryan Lerch * Monday Oct 08 - Jens Petersen * Monday Oct 22 - Christian Schaller * Monday Nov 05 - Owen Taylor More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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Silverblue APAC Meeting Minutes 2018-10-30
by Prakash Mishra 01 Nov '18

01 Nov '18

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-10-30/team_silverbl… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-10-30/team_silverbl… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-10-30/team_silverbl… ======================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Team Silverblue APAC ======================================= Meeting started by prakashmishra at 05:32:08 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-10-30/team_silver… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (prakashmishra, 05:33:37) * LINK: http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/47 (siddharthvipul, 05:38:07) * LINK: http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/47 (ksinny, 05:38:39) * Rebasing from F28 Silverblue to F29 Silverblue results in booting into the initial user setup screen (prakashmishra, 05:43:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/teamsilverblue/issue/49 (prakashmishra, 05:44:11) * Gnome update notification failed to show up (prakashmishra, 05:47:43) * Open floor (prakashmishra, 05:58:21) * LINK: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/29/Fedora-29-20181024.1/ (ksinny, 05:59:45) Meeting ended at 06:02:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * prakashmishra (33) * ksinny (32) * zodbot (9) * prakashmishra159 (7) * siddharthvipul (7) * bhavin192 (6) * juhp (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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