This 3d thigy is really interesting, yet - possibly sort of waste of on old machines that hasn't got real accelerator incorporated. However, IMHO would be interesting to have isometric desktop icons with isometric vector wallpaper. We had also an SVG layering to make transitions in wallpapers as time passes - so combining these maybe can catch people attention.

Z

2017-09-24 19:41 GMT+02:00 Zachary Snyder sadin@fedoraproject.org:

I can get behind this. :)

If things need to be packaged I wouldn't mind lending my time to that if its agreed upon.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi,

Why not this :)

https://bumptop.github.io/

Z

2017-09-24 17:54 GMT+02:00 Enea LeFons enea.lefons@epicgames.com:

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As subject :)

Open source, Free... very professional...

How about it?

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Hi Mo,

I think we can create more interesting Fedora desktop if we use something that not "fully" 3d and resource hungry. I suggest that we can maybe pimp up our desktop if we combine isometric/anamorthic artwork based on svg. I suggest something similar that Victor Vasarely made in his marvelous paints, or VamosArt creates online and combine with our fade thing.

Basically I suggest to make a wallpaper that from a viewpoint visually elevates that artwork as time passes, transforms the art on the desktop to a fake 3d object, an illusion as we use our fade technique. I don't know that is possible to maybe change colors too as it would be in real life lighting affects on materials - but digitally use such wallpaper? In the beginning it looks like an 2D thing that transforms to 3d then again to 2d. Something like these:

VamosArt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guZeAjdYw_c How about like this with our Fedora logo instead of this M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07il8wZR1Tk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKz-APQWPo Heart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cP7UgtXvEU

Zoltan

2017-09-24 23:37 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy fedora@linuxgrrl.com:

If this is a desktop suggestion, this is probably not the right list for discussion. I'm not sure exactly what you're proposing though, and am interested in learning more. Can you give some specifics?

Cheers, ~m

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On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 1:11 PM Enea LeFons < enea.lefons@epicgames.com> wrote: As subject :)

Open source, Free... very professional...

How about it?

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Unrelated to what was said but back to possibly bringing unreal in to be packaged, Unreal is a great engine for game development but also 3D animation and cinematic. It would be cool to offer something like this for say the design suite, I could be wrong but that's what I see this as. I dont know of any distros that pack and ship the engine in repos for easy access.

With the rise In games being published to support the linux platform it would be cool for me personally to see a distro that is so supportive of development and design foster the growth of that. :)

~Zach

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Máirín Duffy duffy@redhat.com wrote:

Hi Zoltan,

On 09/25/2017 05:56 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:

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I think we can create more interesting Fedora desktop if we use something that not "fully" 3d and resource hungry.

I think Enea was suggesting to use actual 3D though.

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I suggest that we can maybe pimp

Please, let's not use this word.

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up our desktop if we combine isometric/anamorthic artwork based on svg. I suggest something similar that Victor Vasarely made in his marvelous paints

Vasarely's artwork is interesting, but I am concerned because a lot of it creates visual movement / interference which on a desktop is pretty distracting. The desktop should fade into the background, not draw attention to itself. Having movement of this type of the screen can be distracting and disorientating; it can make a user feel dizzy.

I do not think we want those effects from our background.

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, or VamosArt creates online and combine with our fade thing.

I think these are neat but am not 100% that the mechanics would work on a screen. These kinds of images rely on physical space that we don't have - we have a flat screen. E.g., here is the intended viewing angle of one:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/683946/thumbs/s-CHALKSNAIL-large640.jpg?4

But change angles and it looks like this:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/683947/thumbs/s-CHALKSNAIL2-large640.jpg?4

We don't have angles within the desktop to make an illusion like this work, as I understand how this works. Part of the illusion is the juxtaposition of a drawn object with correct shading / lighting / perspective in a real environment. I suppose we could mimic the effect by drawing/modeling a 3D like object within a photograph using the same perspective lines as in the photograph; I can't think of any other way of acheiving something like this. If you have more concrete ideas on how this would be possible in the context you're suggesting, I would be interested to see them.

For the specific idea above, we'd need some theme / ideas / content that would fall along the lines of the themes we pursue in Fedora's artwork (generally relating to technology and nature.)

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