You got it Kirk. +1

I'm sick of this "let's make fedora better for the novice user" goal when its just made EVERY user's life harder except maybe fesco's I guess....

I don't even feel like giving examples anymore, but there is a growing group of people that are really starting to disagree with the direction we are drifting from the overall standard of Linux itself.

I think some people should read the article on linux.com which ranks the categorizes every distro by advantage/disadvantage.

I.e. Mint won desktops
Fedora won "bleeding edge"
Ubuntu won "laptop"
Redhat won enterprise
Backtrack won security.

I remember reading that slackware was named the best vanilla distro.

Sometimes I miss slackware and its simplicity because of things changing every 6 months.

How long ago was Fedora 14 released? Remember how perfect it was? Everything worked great.

I'm ranting at this point so I'm gunna go sit in a jacuzzi.

Dan