Well time for me to answer this. There are two reasons why there isnt a Supplemental Wallpaper for F27. First Mo already mentioned, I did live for several months just with net from the phone. So actually for the F26 Supplemental Wallpaper I save the traffic of one week to use it just for the download of the submissions for the legal tests. So on the end half the months traffic just for it. And I could not afford to top up more for it.

Well, my net problems are right now solved as I have a landline, which is stable to use.

Its not funny for me to read in some tickets comments from people, doing this job is just hitting a button. Its not, its heavily time consuming. I spent each release around 400 working hours for it. Most of the time is spent with the legal checks, which has to be done manually and that means down- and upload the submissions, oh yeah the engines like tineye have an API but unfortuantely no such service is free of charge. So you have to do it manually. Same is for the awarding of the badges, except the voting one, they are done manually. So more work.

So looking back to the what did happen around the wallpaper of F26 and accusations made by a person not just here in the design team as well in public meetings which did lead to a council ticket where I was insulted again as the person was not enforced to give an excuse for his accusations as more I was punished by advised to stay away from IRC for a while. So with other words, they council did tell me that way his accusations are right.

With such insultations I did feel not very motivated to run the wallpaper for F27 again, especially the cycle was very short, have a look https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-27/f-27-design-tasks.html

The point is the process starts before the version before it gets released, with going through the dates and setting them up in Nuancier. Its not just simple say, oh thats the date and this not. For making it successful there is a minimal running time for it, some folks need some time to recognize it. So submission phases under 6 weeks make no sense, same for the voting. We tried on the begin to make the period short just a week but a lot of people complained about it, so you need at least 2 weeks for it. In addition you have to give Luya some time for packaging them. So far he does a very good job and finishes the package very fast, but at least a week you have to give him to.

So it was quiet short to do this time.

And it looks, it will be standard for the future to have shorter cycles, that might be fine on the "technical" side but for things like this its contra-productive. Currently I thinking on a way how to do it in a different way, so that we still can have it. My current idea is to run it just yearly for several releases, but there will be some changes for Nuancier needed again.

So that just to give some information.

For the link, yes its nearly the actual process just some minor things are missing, like make the badges tickets, which have to be created before, but its pretty much it.

br gnokii

Am 24.10.2017 um 05:19 schrieb charles profitt:
On Mon, 2017-10-23 at 08:04 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Hi Charles!

On 10/22/2017 03:07 PM, charles profitt wrote:
I noticed that there has not been a call for supplemental
for F27. I did not know if this was by design or due to no one
available to take care of the process.

If it is the latter, I would be willing to take on the process if
someone is able to teach me what is required.
Traditionally, gnokii runs this process but he has poor internet as
of late making it rather challenging.

It's too late for F27, but if you'd like to manage the process for
F28, you are more than welcome.

I am sure gnokii has a lot of advice & guidance - we do have a HOWTO
on managing the process, but I don't know if it's up-to-date with


I will take a look at the process. In the next few days. I will reach
out to gnokii if I have any questions. I was most nervous about how to
setup nuancier to accept submissions and then not sure how the winners
were packaged. I have zero packaging experience.

Thanks for the link.


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